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Related: About this forumVoting Third Party is the Electoral Equivalent of Sending Thoughts and Prayers
In the beginning people ran for president, and the person who won got the top job, while the person who came second became vice president. The founders almost immediately realized that this system was absurdly naïve in practice since the loser was bound to be a little bitter. George Washington was elected largely uncontested, but his chief lieutenants, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, formed bitter rivaling factions in the government before Washington could even get his office chair adjusted to the proper height. Thus was a party system born despite being in no way foreseen by the framers of the Constitution.
By 1804 the Twelfth Amendment was passed, making the president and vice president a team and for all intents and purposes cementing the United States into a two-party system. Occasionally in times of great crisis new parties have risen to devour a dying old one and take its place, but otherwise two is what you get. By the way, thats actual times of great crisis like the Civil War, not this panic is the new black breast-beating we do over freakin Twitter.
Now, the important word here is majority. In a three way race, that does not mean the person who gets 34 percent is the president, nor in a four way race does it mean the person who gets 26 percent is president. Majority means more than half, not more than the others. In these latter two scenarios, the president would be decided by the Republican-led House of Representatives. Thats the law.
Which is why voting third party is mostly an empty gesture meant to telegraph a persons own virtue without actually involving real work. If Stein really wanted to do some progressive good or even pass her bonkers woo ideas, shed be a Democrat or at least an Independent who works with Democrats like Sanders. If Johnson actually cared about letting you smoke weed hassle-free, he should have done something about it when he was a Republican in actual power.
By 1804 the Twelfth Amendment was passed, making the president and vice president a team and for all intents and purposes cementing the United States into a two-party system. Occasionally in times of great crisis new parties have risen to devour a dying old one and take its place, but otherwise two is what you get. By the way, thats actual times of great crisis like the Civil War, not this panic is the new black breast-beating we do over freakin Twitter.
Now, the important word here is majority. In a three way race, that does not mean the person who gets 34 percent is the president, nor in a four way race does it mean the person who gets 26 percent is president. Majority means more than half, not more than the others. In these latter two scenarios, the president would be decided by the Republican-led House of Representatives. Thats the law.
Which is why voting third party is mostly an empty gesture meant to telegraph a persons own virtue without actually involving real work. If Stein really wanted to do some progressive good or even pass her bonkers woo ideas, shed be a Democrat or at least an Independent who works with Democrats like Sanders. If Johnson actually cared about letting you smoke weed hassle-free, he should have done something about it when he was a Republican in actual power.
http://www.freepresshouston.com/voting-third-party-is-the-electoral-equivalent-of-sending-thoughts-and-prayers/
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Voting Third Party is the Electoral Equivalent of Sending Thoughts and Prayers (Original Post)
ehrnst
Sep 2016
OP
LanternWaste, that email you sent me calling me a ni**er, did that make you feel better?
MadDAsHell
Sep 2016
#4
get the red out
(13,466 posts)1. Thank you!
Absolutely!
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)2. "Our hearts go out" makes me cringe too; so cliche.
"Our hearts go out" = I'm sure glad this didn't happen to me/us, but obviously I won't say that out loud.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)3. As ineffective as Silent Threads in Memoriam on DU.
As ineffective as Silent Threads in Memoriam on DU. If your convictions are as strong as your allegation (of which there is no doubt), I'll make a point look for your criticisms on those threads as they arise.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)4. LanternWaste, that email you sent me calling me a ni**er, did that make you feel better?
Or are you just sending those emails for kicks?