2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYelling and threatening, do NOT work in a debate against Hillary.
If you doubt that, just watch her debate with Rick Lazio, circa around 2000. Obama has also called her a formidable debater, who totally exhausted him in 2008. That said, how likely is it that intellectually limited, compared with Hillary, Rump can actually manage a two hour debate with her? I think we all know the answer.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)he has nothing to gain
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He even, allegedly, is prepping, lol.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)If she did not know the answer she just reverted back to sound bites that she memorized. Then the media will allow him to get away with it. They will say Trump won on style. Or it was a tie...If they try to do that we need to hit back HARD! We can't allow the Trump campaign to spin a tie or win for Trump.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Whatever MSM says won't override what our lying eyes and ears experience, lol.
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)It won't be that way although it should be, because the so-called "Liberal Media" HAS been doing just that---shaping this presidential race via what how they've not been HOLDING tRump's feet to the fire when he's caught massively lying or advocating for gun violence vs Hillary. IF Hillary misspeaks, my goodness she's taken to task almost immediately IE: Her "Basket full of deplorables" comment, when you've had that piece of filth tRump hinting that he thinks it's "okey-dokey" to advocate gun violence vs Hillary, because she is against the 2nd amendment which is not only a lie but a DAMN lie. Or, if tRump gets caught in a bold faced lie, you have the likes of a Chuck Todd Clinton-haters Maureen Dowd, Mrs. Greenspan, Mark Halperin and even Matthews do this false equivalence thing where they say "Hillary was caught in a lie too." OF course, we as people who will be watching a debate can see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears what will REALLY happen between the two during their upcoming debate, but if tRump gets caught in some massive lies, the press will once again more than likely say "Well you know, Hillary's "Basket full of deplobarlbe's comment was a bit over the line TOO" when we've seen with our own eyes and heard with our own ears that MANY of tRumps supporters are racist, vile mean and violent--who now via selling tee shirts admit that they're PROUD to be part of tRump's deplorable army.
SMDH.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)that it will have a record number of people watching. Random news cycles can't compete. If Rump melts down with this amount of viewers, it WILL resonate in terms of his support among reasonable voters. His racist base is fixed but small.
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)Who draws ratings, and who the MSM would love to see going off on Hillary Clinton or moderator Lester Holt or maybe even the audience.
Remember the Palin vs Joe Biden vice-presidential debates of 2008? We know how dumb, vapid and clueless Palin IS and we know how smart Joe Biden beat her into the ground. Yet, there were GOP flak and some CNN analysts proclaiming that the bobble-head from Alaska "Beat expectations."
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)bmstee01
(453 posts)She was the one person he couldn't really cut into
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)She is masterful!
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)She thinks on her feet faster than lightening. You all know it's true.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)They are shaping this election and I have no doubt they will manipulate these debates.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)How could it be otherwise?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)It's just that the bar is set so low for him by the M$M or he wouldn't be where he is now.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)barbtries
(28,811 posts)yes, i like it.
tavernier
(12,401 posts)she should take some milk thistle. It will work wonders on those under eye lines.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I hope that I can still look that good and been that active when I reach 68
tavernier
(12,401 posts)I'm a 70 year old woman and milk thistle fixed my eye lines, dry skin and much more. It's a natural liver detox and good for you.
I'm just giving this young lady some good advice from the wisdom of my greater age.
How old are you?? :p
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I'm 55 and have always had dark circles and lines under my eyes (inherited from my mom who inherited from her dad). I'm going to buy some milk thistle today - it sure couldn't hurt.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)milk thistle is contra indicated. I am a breast cancer survivor, almost five years out.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Almost a 5 year survivor!!! That's something to celebrate. May your good fortune continue.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I've had two cousins (thankfully both 20+ years clean) who were both diagnosed in their 20s. That's why you must celebrate ALL good news.....like being able to vote for the first woman President!!!
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)tavernier
(12,401 posts)and then noticed lots of other benefits. Google it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I get the best tips from DU!!! I don't do emoticons (no idea how) but hugs right back atcha!!!
athena
(4,187 posts)who is confident enough and comfortable enough in her own skin that she does not feel the need to use Botox, get plastic surgery, or otherwise attempt to hide her age. She is a great role model for all women. By refusing to give in to the culture of beauty, she is making life better for all of us.
tavernier
(12,401 posts)athena
(4,187 posts)in any way whatsoever.
Hillary is an inspiration to all of us. You being 70 and using milk thistle does not change that fact one bit. I am glad Hillary Clinton looks her age. I am proud of her for looking her age. I plan to look my age when I am 68, as well. Already, I am doing my bit by refusing to color my graying hair.
Furthermore, you should be careful. Your post was alerted on. I voted not to hide it because I guessed where you were coming from, but clearly, to some people, it looks like an attack against Hillary. You need to be clearer in your posts about exactly what you're saying, so it cannot be misinterpreted as a sexist attack.
tavernier
(12,401 posts)On second thought, never mind.
C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)and not show.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Works for me!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Once she does he won't be able to keep his cool or remember anything he was coached to say. I am looking forward to Trump being his most extreme yet, while Hillary smiles and stays calm.