2016 Postmortem

LVZ

(937 posts) Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:50 PM Nov 2012

Solid South? Maybe not as much as you thought ...

Yes, Obama lost all of the old South except Florida and Virginia and essentially all of Redneckistan.

Even so, it is a bit surprising to see the results of some of those states where he got at least 43.5% of the vote.

Arizona, Indiana, Missouri, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina

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Solid South? Maybe not as much as you thought ... (Original Post) LVZ Nov 2012 OP

He got 38 % of Alabama, same as in 2008. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #1

We're a one party state LuckyStrykes Nov 2012 #5

Problem is that the white vote is a unified bloc in most geek tragedy Nov 2012 #2

Treemap of votes by county, state and locally predominant recipient in the US Presidential Elections Tx4obama Nov 2012 #3

Neat graph Rstrstx Nov 2012 #8

For comparison, here are the 2012 solid red states (less than 43.5% Obama) LVZ Nov 2012 #4

Obama did a bit better in 2008 than in 2012 in Texas, hopefully 2016 will be better. Tx4obama Nov 2012 #9

Can't agree with NC on this map oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #11

2nd map is the SOLID RED states + "light red" states (NC included) ... n/t LVZ Nov 2012 #14

Arizona blue by the 2014 midterms..... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #6

POTUS received just under 42% in Texas. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #7

See comment #9 for the numbers. n/t Tx4obama Nov 2012 #10

WHAT IF ? ... (6-step voluntary 3-way divorce scenario) Las Vegas Mixx Nov 2012 #12

So true Carolina Nov 2012 #13

In the Deep South it's because of the "black belt" in those states. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #15

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)

1. He got 38 % of Alabama, same as in 2008.

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:07 PM

Nov 2012

I was hoping he would have picked up more votes here.

LuckyStrykes

(115 posts)

5. We're a one party state

Reply to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:39 PM

Nov 2012

Tho' I do think Sue Bell Cobb may run for Governor and I think she would win.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

2. Problem is that the white vote is a unified bloc in most

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:10 PM

Nov 2012

of those states, and there's no way any Democrat will go over 46% in those states.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

3. Treemap of votes by county, state and locally predominant recipient in the US Presidential Elections

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:16 PM

Nov 2012

Treemap of votes by county, state and locally predominant recipient in the US Presidential Elections of 2012.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)

8. Neat graph

Reply to Tx4obama (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:28 PM

Nov 2012

At first I thought it was a bit off since it had Florida as a bit bigger than Texas but they did cast more votes total. Trying to find states that mimic each other and it's hard, Connecticut is sort of like a smaller version of Massachusetts, Kentucky and Tennessee are also fairly similar

LVZ

(937 posts)

4. For comparison, here are the 2012 solid red states (less than 43.5% Obama)

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:28 PM

Nov 2012

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

9. Obama did a bit better in 2008 than in 2012 in Texas, hopefully 2016 will be better.

Reply to LVZ (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:54 PM

Nov 2012

2008 Texas
Obama: 3,528,633 (43.68%)
McCain: 4,479,328 (55.45%)

2012 Texas - so far
Obama: 3,294,440 (41.35%)
Romney 4,555,799 (57.19%)

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)

11. Can't agree with NC on this map

Reply to LVZ (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:55 AM

Nov 2012

right now it's Robme 50.4% Obama 48%.

LVZ

(937 posts)

14. 2nd map is the SOLID RED states + "light red" states (NC included) ... n/t

Reply to oswaldactedalone (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:00 AM

Nov 2012

ProudProgressiveNow

(6,129 posts)

6. Arizona blue by the 2014 midterms.....

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:01 PM

Nov 2012

We are going to work hard for that!

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)

7. POTUS received just under 42% in Texas.

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:07 PM

Nov 2012

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

10. See comment #9 for the numbers. n/t

Reply to Indpndnt (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:55 PM

Nov 2012

Las Vegas Mixx

(295 posts)

12. WHAT IF ? ... (6-step voluntary 3-way divorce scenario)

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:05 AM

Nov 2012

20 years ago http://www.wisegeek.com/what-was-the-velvet-divorce.htm

The Velvet Divorce was one of the most peaceful changes in political borders in the aftermath of Soviet Communism. Though the Czech Republic and Slovakia still had some kinks to work out after the Velvet Divorce, including the division of former federal property, they remained on peaceful terms with each other throughout. Both countries became members of the European Union in 2004.

"Whenever something is wrong, something is too big." --- Leopold Kohr

Carolina

(6,960 posts)

13. So true

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:05 AM

Nov 2012

I'm in SC and Obama won 21 of our 46 counties, an increase from 2008

Moving on up!

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)

15. In the Deep South it's because of the "black belt" in those states.

Reply to LVZ (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:20 AM

Nov 2012

If you look at a county-level election map one sees a line of blue countries in the deep South, those are counties with large African-American populations.

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