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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:21 PM Sep 2016

what is with nate silver an his nasty snarky tweet?


He sure set fire to the twitter conspiracy nut jobs!





Nate Silver Verified account
?@NateSilver538

Somewhat uncanny how Clinton's polling is holding up in EXACTLY enough states to get her 270 votes but nowhere else.



Sep 22, 2016 at 5:54 PM
Clinton’s Leading In Exactly The States She Needs To Win
Here’s why that isn’t as good as it sounds.

By Nate Silver

Filed under 2016 Election

Hillary Clinton during a campaign stop at the Frontline Outreach Center in Orlando on Wednesday.

Matt Rourke / AP

Here at FiveThirtyEight, our favorite election-related chart is what we officially call the “winding path to 270 electoral votes” and unofficially call the snake. Designed by my colleague Aaron Bycoffe, it lines the states up from most favorable for Hillary Clinton (Hawaii, Maryland) to best for Donald Trump (Wyoming, Alabama) based on the projected margin of victory in each one. The snake is bisected by a line indicating 269 electoral votes: cross this line — meaning you get 270 electoral votes — and you win the election.










Nate Silver ?@NateSilver538 21h21 hours ago

Check out the gap between CO/PA/NH (where Clinton's up 3-4%) and the next cluster of states (where she's losing). CO/PA/NH enough to win.


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what is with nate silver an his nasty snarky tweet? (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2016 OP
Well Hillary moved higher in his polls. Hillary 62% to Trump 38, and CO, NM and NV still_one Sep 2016 #1
Other pollsters are suggesting he's moving altogether too Hortensis Sep 2016 #8
What I was trying to say was Hillary numbers look like they are improving. still_one Sep 2016 #17
Oh, they've been egregious, literally a menace Hortensis Sep 2016 #19
Click bait Iliyah Sep 2016 #2
Lashes out when he's being attacked Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #3
sounds like she's got a sound electoral ad/campaign strategy unblock Sep 2016 #4
It would not at all surprise me that he doesn't KNOW how the electoral college works... MANative Sep 2016 #5
they could explain it to him and he'd say, "i don't care. if i get on national tv, unblock Sep 2016 #10
Ain't that the truth! MANative Sep 2016 #12
the figure i heard was $2 billion, and that was months ago! unblock Sep 2016 #13
Sickening. And the ONLY reason that he's marginally close MANative Sep 2016 #16
I wouldn't call it snarky.... Adrahil Sep 2016 #6
He is saying how national polling average +4-5 is not matching state polls MyNameIsKhan Sep 2016 #7
State polls ALWAYS lag leftynyc Sep 2016 #14
I'm so old I remember when Arizona and Georgia weren't "swing states". OilemFirchen Sep 2016 #9
I'm in AZ and it still isn't. former9thward Sep 2016 #18
It is interesting how much his tone has tallahasseedem Sep 2016 #11
I don't think it's snarky. SaschaHM Sep 2016 #15

still_one

(92,216 posts)
1. Well Hillary moved higher in his polls. Hillary 62% to Trump 38, and CO, NM and NV
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:25 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)

are now in the blue column:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

and that was based on his model about an hour ago

She has been recovering since the feeding frenzy on the pneumonia incident.

What it says is the media commentary, or should I say bullshit, has more influence on the election than it should



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Other pollsters are suggesting he's moving altogether too
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:53 PM
Sep 2016

much, too often, blowing with the polling winds. I've always respected him, and I wouldn't call his piece commenting on the 270 phenom nasty at all, but... From others,

Sam Wang, retweeted, stuart stevens ?@stuartpstevens 17h17 hours ago
stuart stevens Retweeted Michael Cohen
Race very stable, even more so than '12. Then you had 2 candidates with about 50% fav's., so each had more potential leverage.

stuart stevens added,
Michael Cohen @speechboy71
Yup. The basic trajectory of this race is unchanged. Clinton's race to lose; hard to see how that happens https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/778933717066735617

Sam Wang Retweeted
Maggie Haberman ?@maggieNYT Sep 22
This point is getting lost in Twitter noise and polling gluts

still_one

(92,216 posts)
17. What I was trying to say was Hillary numbers look like they are improving.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:05 PM
Sep 2016

The unpopular theme about Hillary was a myth created by the press

I believe with sexist over tones because they seem to have problems with smart strong women

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Oh, they've been egregious, literally a menace
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:56 PM
Sep 2016

to democracy. We also have to cut the connection between clicks on a headline and their bottom line.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Click bait
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:31 PM
Sep 2016

A pleasant shocker would be Texas. I believe FL as well as OH will move into the blue section soon.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
4. sounds like she's got a sound electoral ad/campaign strategy
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:39 PM
Sep 2016

targeting mostly the core states she needs to get to 270, and spending extra in other battleground states to just in case it's needed.

meanwhile, trump seems to have a generic national campaign, somewhat oblivious to the way electoral votes are actually counted.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
5. It would not at all surprise me that he doesn't KNOW how the electoral college works...
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:41 PM
Sep 2016

and we know he doesn't listen to anyone, so any attempts at guidance in this would fall on deaf ears. After all, just five short years ago, he admitted to not knowing what the 13 stripes in our flag represented. I'm quite confident he couldn't pass a citizenship test, and neither could most Republicans.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
10. they could explain it to him and he'd say, "i don't care. if i get on national tv,
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:01 PM
Sep 2016

then i'm on tv in those battleground states, too"

so far it's worked well for him, thanks to all the free publicity the national media give him.
can you imagine if we still had a concept of "equal time"?

targeted ad buys don't really apply if you're not really buying ads....

MANative

(4,112 posts)
16. Sickening. And the ONLY reason that he's marginally close
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:33 PM
Sep 2016

in the polls. There are some out there dumb enough to think he's the only one running because his ugly mug is all they see and his nails-on-chalkboard voice the only one they hear.

I hope beyond hope that when Hillary wipes the floor with him in November, he slinks off into obscurity, never to be seen or heard again. I know it's too much, but it is my most fervent wish!

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. I wouldn't call it snarky....
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:46 PM
Sep 2016

he was remarking earlier that they had deployed resources to ensure a firewall. It's working.

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
7. He is saying how national polling average +4-5 is not matching state polls
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:53 PM
Sep 2016

This will fall in line pretty soon. Pollsters will adjust LV models soon.

Not to sound opportunistic, NC will vote heavily after recent shooting.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. State polls ALWAYS lag
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:10 PM
Sep 2016

behind national polls. Does he not know that or is he pretending not to know that?

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
9. I'm so old I remember when Arizona and Georgia weren't "swing states".
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:53 PM
Sep 2016

How long ago was that? Four years?

Damn. I'm feeling crusty.

former9thward

(32,017 posts)
18. I'm in AZ and it still isn't.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:07 PM
Sep 2016

McCain has opened up a 19 point lead in his race and will pull Trump along for the ride.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
11. It is interesting how much his tone has
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:04 PM
Sep 2016

changed since he did that GOP closed door session a couple of weeks ago. No surprise there.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
15. I don't think it's snarky.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:19 PM
Sep 2016

It is interesting that regardless of how the polling moves, a D candidate has a lock on 270+ EV. Politically, that's huge and will have ramifications on elections going forth if it holds. Imagine how the republican party will have to shift to be viable on the national stage.

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