2016 Postmortem

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts) Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:44 PM Sep 2016

On Debate Fact Checking

I may be alone in this, but even though it would be nice if the debate moderator would call out candidates on their lies, it is ultimately the opponent's job to call out the candidate on lies. I remember Dubya and Gore debating in 2000, watching Dubya lying about something and getting away with it. My first reaction was: how could Gore let him get away with that?

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On Debate Fact Checking (Original Post) Dirty Socialist Sep 2016 OP

We should be tweeting every lie as it happens radical noodle Sep 2016 #1

I do not believe you can type as fast as Trump can talk Angry Dragon Sep 2016 #2

True! radical noodle Sep 2016 #5

But if she spends much time on it- then he gets all the coverage again, so she needs to be pithy - bettyellen Sep 2016 #3

I don't think they can rightly be called debates, anyway. LisaM Sep 2016 #4

this leaves you vulnerable to the classic Republican Gish Gallop maxsolomon Sep 2016 #6

Right, if they have a chance to respond question everything Sep 2016 #7

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)

1. We should be tweeting every lie as it happens

Reply to Dirty Socialist (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:45 PM

Sep 2016

Call him out to the world.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)

2. I do not believe you can type as fast as Trump can talk

Reply to radical noodle (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:48 PM

Sep 2016

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)

5. True!

Reply to Angry Dragon (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:51 PM

Sep 2016

We might have to take turns.

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)

3. But if she spends much time on it- then he gets all the coverage again, so she needs to be pithy -

Reply to Dirty Socialist (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:50 PM

Sep 2016

Reference specific reports that prove the lie and say she's sure the pundits will break it down for the public after.
Should not be her duty to clean up his messes.
He grabs headlines every single time she has a strong speech. Creating chaos is his mo.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)

4. I don't think they can rightly be called debates, anyway.

Reply to Dirty Socialist (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:50 PM

Sep 2016

They don't even ask the candidates the same questions!

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)

6. this leaves you vulnerable to the classic Republican Gish Gallop

Reply to Dirty Socialist (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:39 PM

Sep 2016

I'm going to use my 2 minutes to tell 10 lies.

You're going to use up your 2 minutes to refute 7 of them.

I win: You never got to make your case, and 3 of my lies went unaddressed.

The lie gets halfway around the world before the truth get its pants on.

question everything

(47,479 posts)

7. Right, if they have a chance to respond

Reply to Dirty Socialist (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:53 PM

Sep 2016

During Lauer dog and pony show, Hillary did not have a chance.

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