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Greenberg poll (D) only has Clinton up ONE pt (!) over Trump w white millennials, 33-32%. Wow. (Original Post) factfinder_77 Sep 2016 OP
Good news. triron Sep 2016 #1
Ahh no. former9thward Sep 2016 #2
White under 30s. There's a difference. Zynx Sep 2016 #3
Obama won the under 30 by 23 points. former9thward Sep 2016 #5
I think you are forgetting black voters MistakenLamb Sep 2016 #8
There were huge differences and white men were his least supportive demographic bettyellen Sep 2016 #9
Look at the exit polls here. Zynx Sep 2016 #11
Obama got 60% of the under 30 vote. former9thward Sep 2016 #13
Yes, but he lost the white under 30 vote. Zynx Sep 2016 #14
Not going to help her if she does not get Obama's numbers. former9thward Sep 2016 #17
she is doing better than Obama among white millenials and white women JI7 Sep 2016 #25
42% of 18-29 were non-white geek tragedy Sep 2016 #16
because he won far higher and pretty much ALL of the non white votes while his loss among whites JI7 Sep 2016 #18
Obama won the under 30 vote .... 60% voted for Obama etherealtruth Sep 2016 #4
Nope! We're just talking about whites under the age of 30. Obama didn't win those. Zynx Sep 2016 #12
The info indicates otherwise etherealtruth Sep 2016 #20
2012!!! BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #22
Trump is doing really poorly with white voters under 30 if he's only got 32% DemocraticWing Sep 2016 #6
I found this table showing white youth support from 2012 MistakenLamb Sep 2016 #7
Romney won white milennials in 2012, Obama's margin amongst younger voters was ENTIRELY geek tragedy Sep 2016 #10
How many white millenials were interviewed? molova Sep 2016 #15
The only poll that counts is election day and I'm worried about turnout. Vinca Sep 2016 #19
Fantastic news!!! Bleacher Creature Sep 2016 #21
My grandson and I had argument marlakay Sep 2016 #23
Yep, so he's an uneducated voter. Glad you tried speaking to him. Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #26
I'm not exactly sure what the age cutoff Skoods Sep 2016 #24

former9thward

(32,012 posts)
5. Obama won the under 30 by 23 points.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 06:30 PM
Sep 2016

You are saying that Obama lost the white under 30 yet still won the under 30 by 23 points!!! Sorry that voter math does not remotely begin to add up. Please provide a link showing Obama lost the white under 30 by 7 points --- or any points.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
11. Look at the exit polls here.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:35 PM
Sep 2016
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/

Also, yes, I can construct the algebra by which that is true. Obama virtually swept the non-white vote under the age of 30. That means that if he lost the white vote narrowly, he would have a massive overall lead.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
14. Yes, but he lost the white under 30 vote.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:28 PM
Sep 2016

She is outperforming that in current polling. I don't know why this concept is so hard to grasp.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)
17. Not going to help her if she does not get Obama's numbers.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:04 AM
Sep 2016

I don't know why this concept is so hard to grasp.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. 42% of 18-29 were non-white
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:43 PM
Sep 2016

He won around 80% which would mean (.6 * .42) 25 points of margin from non-white voters.

Losing by 7 points amongst white 18-29s = (.07 * .58) = 4 points of margin going the other way.

So the math works perfectly. White milennials are less progressive than the overall population.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
18. because he won far higher and pretty much ALL of the non white votes while his loss among whites
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:04 AM
Sep 2016

was not as great as the loss of non whites by republicans.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
12. Nope! We're just talking about whites under the age of 30. Obama didn't win those.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:37 PM
Sep 2016
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/

Look at the exit polls here. He lost that group by 7%. Millennials are more heavily minority than the rest of the electorate and sweeping the minority portions of Millennials while losing whites narrowly means you win by a lot overall.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
20. The info indicates otherwise
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:48 AM
Sep 2016
While Obama captured 66% of the youth vote, compared with McCain’s 31%, voters age 30 and older divided roughly evenly between the two candidates. Among those ages 18-29, Obama took a majority among whites (54%-44%), and captured more than three-fourths of young Hispanic voters (76%-19%). However, among both younger and older voters, there was no difference in the vote of those with college experience and those without.

http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/11/13/young-voters-in-the-2008-election/

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
22. 2012!!!
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:39 PM
Sep 2016

The OP clearly stated Obama support in 2012. You just posted McCain's numbers, which would have been in 2008.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
6. Trump is doing really poorly with white voters under 30 if he's only got 32%
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

I think Romney broke 50% with that group

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Romney won white milennials in 2012, Obama's margin amongst younger voters was ENTIRELY
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
Sep 2016

due to young people of color.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
19. The only poll that counts is election day and I'm worried about turnout.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:25 AM
Sep 2016

This race has that "midterm" feel.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
21. Fantastic news!!!
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:57 PM
Sep 2016

Romney won with that group in 2012. Obama's dominance with young voters came in non-white millennials (where Hillary may do even better thanks to Trump).

The fact that she's outperforming Obama just underscores how important TURNOUT will be.

marlakay

(11,468 posts)
23. My grandson and I had argument
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:48 PM
Sep 2016

Over him telling me last night he is voting for Trump.

Of course he doesn't read or pay attention to both sides so just hears soundbites.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
26. Yep, so he's an uneducated voter. Glad you tried speaking to him.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:01 AM
Sep 2016

Maybe tell him what happened in class if you weren't educated on a topic? You'd fail. He hears Trump's lies much the way people hear scary loud bullies and figure they should listen to them. Trump has said such filth about women and others. But, if moral arguments fail, say there is no experience in Trump's history being involved in foreign affairs, and that's why Republican papers are backing her, former President GHW Bush, and the last guy who ran GOP said he's s fraud! What else needs said? Lol

 

Skoods

(341 posts)
24. I'm not exactly sure what the age cutoff
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:40 PM
Sep 2016

Is for millenials. But I'm a 28 year old white male and I truly believe this is dependent on location and culture.

I grew up in the Philadelphia suburbs and have lived in New England for a third of my life, and most white millenials I know either don't vote or are democrats.

The further south you go, the more white millenials have been brainwashed by the dark side.

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