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pnwmom

(108,979 posts)
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:46 PM Sep 2016

Hillary Clinton's "angry" face

This is an article about research in a lab to determine people's reactions to emotions expressed in faces - and how the reactions vary based on the gender of the person being viewed.

People respond differently to the same expressions if used by a woman vs. used by a man.


When Hillary Clinton participated in a televised forum on national security and military issues this month, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, Reince Priebus, tweeted that she was “angry and defensive the entire time — no smile and uncomfortable.” Mrs. Clinton, evidently undaunted by Mr. Priebus’s opinion on when she should and shouldn’t smile, tweeted back, “Actually, that’s just what taking the office of president seriously looks like.”

The implication of Mr. Priebus’s comment was a familiar one: A woman making stern-looking facial movements must be angry or upset. A man who looks the same, on the other hand, is focusing on the important matters at hand.




Today, these stereotypes are playing out on the national stage. Polls indicate that Mrs. Clinton is seen as a more credible candidate than Mr. Trump, yet less trustworthy and likable. This discrepancy is surely rooted, in part, in Mrs. Clinton’s violations of female stereotypes. When she acts “presidential,” she is seen as harsh and cold. In contrast, when Mr. Trump insults his critics or rails against immigrants, many people attribute his anger to the situation (terrorism, the economy) rather than to something about his inner nature. She’s ingenuine; he’s giving voice to the feelings of his fellow Americans.

Most of us recognize gender stereotypes when they’re blatant. But when stereotyping is more subtle, as shown by the facial photo studies, we all succumb and often don’t realize it.

Keep this in mind when you watch the debate on Monday. Will you perceive Mrs. Clinton as running warm and cold, but Mr. Trump as responding to the ups and downs of the debate? When each candidate presses a point, will you see Mrs. Clinton as being irate but Mr. Trump as simply trying to best his opponent? If so, ask yourself: Is it possible that you’re channeling unconscious, cultural biases, and can you rise above them?


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/opinion/sunday/hillary-clintons-angry-face.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region


This drove me crazy during the primaries, too. Bernie could get applauded for his righteous anger. And I understood that -- he was genuinely angry and his anger was completely justified.

But if Bernie had been exactly the same, except for being "Bernice" -- no way. A Bernice would never have been allowed to show that passion, that anger. (Neither would a black man running for the Presidency. President Obama didn't win by being perceived as an angry black man.)

Elizabeth Warren has spoken of this -- how differently women are treated in this regard. Even women Senators have to be careful they don't express themselves in a way that's going to offend people.
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Hillary Clinton's "angry" face (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2016 OP
k and r niyad Sep 2016 #1
K & R BootinUp Sep 2016 #2
HA. People respond differently to posts too. If you emphatically disagree no matter how plain spoken bettyellen Sep 2016 #3
Yes pnwmom Sep 2016 #4
Bet none of the talking heads treestar Sep 2016 #5
There is nothing as disgustingly phony as Trumps "serious" face. world wide wally Sep 2016 #6
Unfortunately, too many people buy it. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2016 #7
Sexism & misogyny are at an epidemic level. grossproffit Sep 2016 #8
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
3. HA. People respond differently to posts too. If you emphatically disagree no matter how plain spoken
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:12 PM
Sep 2016

And factual you are, lots of people react as if you're being emotional. Of course that allows them to react emotionally since my thoughts are a "situation" and not a counter argument. Happens all the time.
I'm like wait- stop taking it personally and argue your point!

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
6. There is nothing as disgustingly phony as Trumps "serious" face.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:38 PM
Sep 2016

He puts on the frown as if it gives him gravitas.
He just looks like a sad buffoon.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
8. Sexism & misogyny are at an epidemic level.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 09:11 AM
Sep 2016

Anyone who says otherwise is purposely stupid or just plain stupid.

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