2016 Postmortem

still_one

(92,250 posts) Tue Sep 27, 2016, 08:59 AM Sep 2016

Of Course Men Commented On Hillary Clinton’s Looks During The Debate

"Oh the joys of being a woman. Your appearance is never *quite* acceptable enough.

Few understand this reality as well as Hillary Clinton. She’s weathered attacks on her hair, her scrunchies, her clothing, her age and her facial expressions.

When Clinton isn’t grinning constantly, she’s criticized, primarily by men, for not smiling enough. When she does smile ― like when she is winning her first general election presidential debate ― men think she’s, wait for it, smiling too much. Yes, that’s correct. The woman who was repeatedly told to smile by everyone from Reince Priebus to Ed Rendell, is now being told to smile less."

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A lot of ugly things have surfaced in this election, but perhaps the most disturbing is the fact that sexism and racism are alive and well in America

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Of Course Men Commented On Hillary Clinton’s Looks During The Debate (Original Post) still_one Sep 2016 OP

They ought to have some female comments on Trumps looks to be fair Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2016 #1

I'm a straight white male NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #2

but you aren't part of a national news organization or official in a political party. still_one Sep 2016 #4

I understand that NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #8

In fairness, Those remarks were attributed to brit hume, fox news, and officials in the rnc. I still_one Sep 2016 #9

His constant references to women being or not being 10s begs a question as to what his number would karynnj Sep 2016 #6

Here's one. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2016 #7

men want to control heaven05 Sep 2016 #3

I've mostly found women to be most critical of other women's appearances CajunBlazer Sep 2016 #5

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)

1. They ought to have some female comments on Trumps looks to be fair

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:08 AM

Sep 2016

I personally find him to be a very unattractive man.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

2. I'm a straight white male

Reply to Zing Zing Zingbah (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:12 AM

Sep 2016

but, I had commented on Facebook last night that Trump looked "squinty and angry" at the start of the debate.

And, yes, i was waiting last night for somebody to say that Clinton was smiling too much, but I have not heard that - yet. I'm sure it's out there somewhere, though.

still_one

(92,250 posts)

4. but you aren't part of a national news organization or official in a political party.

Reply to NewJeffCT (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:25 AM

Sep 2016

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It is more than that also. They were commenting on how "unattractive she was". For most of the campaign the news media, NOT just fox have been making snide remarks such as "she is angry, doesn't smile, is shrill, etc". The characterization of her male opponents by the MEDIA talking heads, never even went there. It was only directed at the strong "WOMAN"

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

8. I understand that

Reply to still_one (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:37 AM

Sep 2016

yes, it's a huge double standard that women have to endure. I just did not hear anything last night about how she looked in the post debate commentary - I'm sure I missed it, but I did not watch a lot of the "after" debate, other than hearing Tweety saying that it was a knockout for Clinton and she had 5 home runs to 0 for Trump, and then Steve Schmidt saying that Trump did okay at the start, but was later reduced to incoherent babbling after the first 45 minutes.

still_one

(92,250 posts)

9. In fairness, Those remarks were attributed to brit hume, fox news, and officials in the rnc. I

Reply to NewJeffCT (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:59 AM

Sep 2016

realize you, and everyone else at DU know what's up.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)

6. His constant references to women being or not being 10s begs a question as to what his number would

Reply to Zing Zing Zingbah (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:31 AM

Sep 2016

be if men were treated as just what they look like.

Even a 3 would be generous.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,743 posts)

7. Here's one.

Reply to Zing Zing Zingbah (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:34 AM

Sep 2016

He looked like a badly made-up corpse. She looked 10 years younger than he did.

heaven05

(18,124 posts)

3. men want to control

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:22 AM

Sep 2016

Period. HRC was serious appropriately and smiled sincerely when the buffoon stuck his foot in his mouth. HRC was commanding thoughout.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)

5. I've mostly found women to be most critical of other women's appearances

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:26 AM

Sep 2016

Of course that's in everyday life, not in the debate last night.

With reference to the debate I think that a person's thoughts about the candidates' appearances had a lot to do with who they support. Maybe the men who are sounding about Hillary's appearance support Trump.

I'm a man and I found Hillary's smile engaging while Trump looked like he was mad all night. I think that any man who continues to comb his hair the way Trump does is living in the past and it inappropriate for his age. On the other hand I don't remember Trump face looking as orange as usual with the tell tail whiter areas around the eyes. He should engage a makeup artist more often on the trail. Then we we can accuse him of being a "sissy".

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