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BTRTN: Clinton Wins Debate as Trump Throws a Temperament Tantrum (Original Post) tgards79 Sep 2016 OP
we were talking about this last night: ginnyinWI Sep 2016 #1
Very true.... tgards79 Sep 2016 #2
The Lester of Two Evils... reggieandlee Sep 2016 #3
"It’s important to note, however, that CNN’s poll was limited to people who had watched the debate. anamandujano Sep 2016 #4
Yes, but... tgards79 Sep 2016 #5
I think she mentioned that but don't quote me. anamandujano Sep 2016 #6
It is kind of crazy to judge her on her husband's policies tgards79 Sep 2016 #7

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
1. we were talking about this last night:
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:57 AM
Sep 2016

"As a result, he meandered from topic to topic following a train of logic not readily evident to the viewer, all while presenting a visual image not unlike Bogart’s Queeg, fingering his marbles while testifying about strawberries. "

Except in the movie, Queeg seems to come to himself at the end of his speech, and try to cover up his detour into unreality. Trump never did.

reggieandlee

(778 posts)
3. The Lester of Two Evils...
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:55 PM
Sep 2016

This article is great, but Hillary's win would have been even more decisive if Lester Holt had not gone M.I.A. for the second half of the debate. He was reasonably engaged throughout his questions on race relations and the birther movement, but the global policy discussion was a free-for-all that badly needed supervision. Brian Williams must be gnashing his teeth.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
4. "It’s important to note, however, that CNN’s poll was limited to people who had watched the debate.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:29 PM
Sep 2016

I suspect that a healthy portion of Trump’s basket of deplorables opted for re-runs of Duck Dynasty rather than risk witnessing the spectacle of their candidate being chick-filleted."

I don't agree that he won on the Trade issue. He was only attacking Hillary with it, trying to hold her responsible for everything for the last 30 years. She was not POTUS.

tgards79

(1,415 posts)
5. Yes, but...
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:44 PM
Sep 2016

Trump knows only a sentence on each issue except trade and immigration, where he knows two sentences. Hillary needs better talking point on trade...like it was Bush who negotiated NAFTA, not her husband.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
6. I think she mentioned that but don't quote me.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:55 PM
Sep 2016

At any rate, she had no power at the time, only her opinions. I believe President Clinton was forced into many compromises in exchange for help getting other things passed in the puke controlled congress.

At the time she had to make a decision between speaking her mind possibly against Bill or holding her tongue. Most important decisions are not black and white.

tgards79

(1,415 posts)
7. It is kind of crazy to judge her on her husband's policies
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:03 PM
Sep 2016

But she should talk about all the jobs NAFTA created, a lot of tech jobs from what I recall reading, offsetting the loss of blue collar jobs

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