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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:23 PM Sep 2016

Idiocracy Now: Donald Trump and the Dunning-Kruger Effect

In many areas of life, incompetent people do not recognize  —  scratch that, cannot recognize  —  just how incompetent they are, a phenomenon that has come to be known as the Dunning-Kruger effect. Logic itself almost demands this lack of self-insight: For poor performers to recognize their ineptitude would require them to possess the very expertise they lack. To know how skilled or unskilled you are at using the rules of grammar, for instance, you must have a good working knowledge of those rules, an impossibility among the incompetent. Poor performers  —  and we are all poor performers at some things  —  fail to see the flaws in their thinking or the answers they lack. What’s curious is that, in many cases, incompetence does not leave people disoriented, perplexed, or cautious. Instead, the incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge.

Sound familiar? Trump’s first presidential debate with Hillary Clinton was replete with examples of this phenomenon.


http://www.salon.com/2016/09/30/idiocracy-now-donald-trump-and-the-dunning-kruger-effect-when-stupid-people-dont-know-they-are-stupid/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
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Idiocracy Now: Donald Trump and the Dunning-Kruger Effect (Original Post) mainer Sep 2016 OP
Most people have had a boss like this. madaboutharry Sep 2016 #1
A cretin I once worked for said, right before he came on to me, MoonRiver Sep 2016 #6
"Illusory superiority" Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #2
There is a counter-vailing effect: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #3
Tks mainer - so much has been written, and so much more asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #4
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Sep 2016 #5
K & R! HuckleB Sep 2016 #7
It's not just stupid people like the article url suggests. This is also Ben Carson's main problem TlalocW Sep 2016 #8

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
6. A cretin I once worked for said, right before he came on to me,
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:39 PM
Sep 2016

that he only hired me for "my looks." I was out of there right after putting in my two weeks resignation. I watched my back every second of those two weeks. I should have filed a sexual discrimination suit, but they didn't exist back then, and it would have been my word against the "boss."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
3. There is a counter-vailing effect:
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:32 PM
Sep 2016

Widely known but not as widely understood: "The more you learn the less you know".


asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
4. Tks mainer - so much has been written, and so much more
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:33 PM
Sep 2016

to come - with DT as a subject matter..

As I read through the analysis, I can also identify many in congress with the same malady..cornyn and McConnell for starters. Especially just this week, with the override of President Obama's veto regarding the Saudi 911 bill...

Now they have an oops moment..seems to me, from what I have read, they just got around to reading the bill - and now blame the Prez....so what else is new....

TlalocW

(15,388 posts)
8. It's not just stupid people like the article url suggests. This is also Ben Carson's main problem
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:19 PM
Sep 2016

Brilliant surgeon and thinks that that expertise and knowledge means he's smart enough to spout off on things he has never studied.

Linus Pauling was another - brilliant chemist so he was kind of in the area of medical science to begin with, and he thought massive doses of Vitamin C were the cure for the common cold.

Einstein was fooled by simple magic tricks and would go up to magicians after a show and say things like, "When you did this one trick, this is how you did it, correct?" and he was always wrong.

James Randi probably is the biggest exposer of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Scientists believe they're too smart to be fooled by sleight-of-hand so when Uri Gellar came along in the 1970s displaying powers of mind-over-matter, bending keys and spoons, and the like, some scientists fell for it, and the scientists who were more skeptical were offering up all kinds of crazy explanations (laser beams to soften the metal, etc.) because the simple answer of he's bending the key while distracting you wasn't possible for them.

TlalocW

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