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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 07:50 PM Oct 2016

If Trump Is The Teflon Don, Why Are His Poll Numbers Crashing?

I probably heard it at least 20 times on the media today: no matter what he does, nothing effects Trump with the electorate. Things that would have doomed other campaigns don't seem to hurt Trump's campaign.

Oh, really?

The 9-11 point crash in his poll numbers has nothing to do with what he says?

Guess what, media: his campaign IS doomed. Right now. So you can get over your lazy spinning of the bullshit. Now.

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If Trump Is The Teflon Don, Why Are His Poll Numbers Crashing? (Original Post) stopbush Oct 2016 OP
Trump is a loser, plain and simple. dubyadiprecession Oct 2016 #1
I don't think his numbers are crashing, Clinton's are just going up. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #2
He's less and less Teflon. His complete amateurishness becomes more and more obvious. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #3
Joe Scarborough said it is because his numbers helpisontheway Oct 2016 #4
When you're the GOP nominee, and you're in the 35-41% slot for national polls as "normal" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #6
It's called reversion to the mean. Adrahil Oct 2016 #7
The problem is that Scarborough is pretty much the quintessential idiot pundit Imperialism Inc. Oct 2016 #8
He's not and never has been alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #5
Hillary is covering him with Velcro calguy Oct 2016 #9
K&R! DemonGoddess Oct 2016 #10
Even Teflon wears off when it's overused meow2u3 Oct 2016 #11
Removing the outliar polls, Donnie is at 42%. Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #12
Even the original Teflon Don, mobster John Gotti, went to jail for his crimes. nt TeamPooka Oct 2016 #13
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. I don't think his numbers are crashing, Clinton's are just going up.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 07:58 PM
Oct 2016

He's locked in around a certain percentage of the overall population, but more and more are coming over to Clinton's side from the ranks of third parties or undecided or unlikely to vote.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
4. Joe Scarborough said it is because his numbers
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:12 PM
Oct 2016

go down temporarily during bad times (like immediately after democratic debate) and then goes back to normal.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. When you're the GOP nominee, and you're in the 35-41% slot for national polls as "normal"
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:17 PM
Oct 2016

you've already failed.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
7. It's called reversion to the mean.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:20 PM
Oct 2016

Nate Silver has talked about this some.

To me, it's looks like the natural spread is about 3-4 points. Events seem make excursions to 7-8 points (HRC up) or near even. In the absence of a news cycle narrative, the polls will usually "revert to the mean." The fact that the mean is in our favor, so there's that.

The fact is, we are SO polarized, it's pretty unlikely we'll see huge landslides anymore. I admit, it would take a LOT to get me to not vote D.

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
8. The problem is that Scarborough is pretty much the quintessential idiot pundit
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:37 PM
Oct 2016

when it comes to polls. The actual polling averages don't support that narrative. The real story is that Trump has lost around a point and Clinton has gained about two points.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. He's not and never has been
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 08:17 PM
Oct 2016

To be the Republican nominee for President and basically be stuck at 40% in national polls means you're already a total failure. He's not Teflon. He's a filthy pan already, and it's only going to get worse.

meow2u3

(24,773 posts)
11. Even Teflon wears off when it's overused
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 10:13 PM
Oct 2016

It also helps when Hillary is accelerating the process and covering him with Velcro afterwards, when it can stick better.

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