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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:18 AM Oct 2016

"Trump then "kissed, fondled, and restrained" her during a visit to his daughter Ivanka's bedroom"

The Trump Files: Donald's Creepy Poolside Parties in Florida
"Trump insisted on at least a three-to-two ratio of women to men at his bashes."

Max J. RosenthalSep. 27, 2016 6:00 AM

In 1993, Trump hosted the finals of the American Dream Calendar Girls pageant in Atlantic City, New Jersey, and a spot in the calendar meant modeling gigs and visibility. "None of the women competing wanted to miss a chance to impress a judge like Trump," wrote the Tampa Bay Times in a profile of Trump.

Trump apparently saw it differently. "What it was was a way to get his friends together and bring a bunch of pretty girls with them," said George Houraney, who owned the pageant with his then-wife, Jill Harth. Harth said Trump groped her during a Mar-a-Lago party in 1993, and then "kissed, fondled, and restrained" her during a visit to his daughter Ivanka's bedroom, according to the Globe. Harth sued Trump but dropped the lawsuit in 1997. She told the Post that dropping the suit was a condition of settling a separate breach-of-contract suit Houraney and Harth filed against Trump. Trump strenuously denied Harth's story.

The suit also mentioned other alleged sexual advances by Trump. The Globe described one encounter with a pageant hopeful:

In the predawn hours, a contestant named Lauren Petrella—who, at age 22, was 24 years younger than the 46-year-old Trump—allegedly found Trump, unannounced and uninvited, in her bed. "You said you don't sleep with men on the first date," he told her, according to the lawsuit filed by Harth. "Now it's the second date, and here I am."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/trump-files-donalds-creepy-poolside-parties-florida
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"Trump then "kissed, fondled, and restrained" her during a visit to his daughter Ivanka's bedroom" (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2016 OP
Ugh! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #1
Sick bastard! n/t spartan61 Oct 2016 #2
Sexual Predator DK504 Oct 2016 #18
Come on. Men that wealthy attract an extravagant supply of Hortensis Oct 2016 #24
Ew, just Ew. catbyte Oct 2016 #3
The more I read about dRUmpf, Mc Mike Oct 2016 #4
Good call Miles Archer Oct 2016 #6
That "Daddy" line hits pretty close to home with Trump. Crash2Parties Oct 2016 #36
"I have tremendous respect for women. Nobody will be better on women than . . . . Stinky The Clown Oct 2016 #5
With Dump you have to know when to interpret what he says in opposite langugae. Nitram Oct 2016 #7
I notice that he doesn't say "women's issues" or "rights". greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #19
Define "on." volstork Oct 2016 #20
Gross MFM008 Oct 2016 #8
eeew... yuck!!! Stellar Oct 2016 #9
I can understand trump ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #10
Is that a rhetorical question?? llmart Oct 2016 #11
it is as though someone kicked an old, rusty garbage can lid ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #26
they don't believe anything the Librul media tells them. nt ginnyinWI Oct 2016 #23
A whole lot of his followers fantasize about being Trump Siwsan Oct 2016 #27
I'm Trying To Imagine The Tsunami Of Outrage If The Big Dawg Had Been Doing That Sort Of Pawing Vogon_Glory Oct 2016 #12
Ick AllyCat Oct 2016 #13
In IVANKA'S room?? reznor73 Oct 2016 #14
Double Ick reznor73. AllyCat Oct 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #22
He *sure* likes getting sexual in Ivanka's bedroom. This is the second reporting by someone who BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #16
I googled pictures of Jill Harth and she's pretty tall with long blond hair. tanyev Oct 2016 #34
This is the guy who wants to go after Bill Clinton's transgressions? George II Oct 2016 #17
Seriously. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #21
He says he is restraining himself in mentioning Bill's infidelities, he would be opening a large can Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #29
He thought she should be honored to have him. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #25
The thought of finding Donald fucking Trump in your bed sarae Oct 2016 #28
Words fail me ailsagirl Oct 2016 #32
Vomit. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #30
Revolting ailsagirl Oct 2016 #31
And you wonder why ASSange is working so hard to elect this predator. Birds of a feather....... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2016 #33
In Ivanka's bedroom. Ugh. Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #35
This will no doubt be reviewed in light of recent revelations. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #37

DK504

(3,847 posts)
18. Sexual Predator
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:36 AM
Oct 2016

A confidentiality agreement to go to a party? What the hell does he do, have lawyers protecting the door like it Studio 54?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Come on. Men that wealthy attract an extravagant supply of
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:10 AM
Oct 2016

willing, or at least very interested, females. Their security guards have to fend them off.

As for those girls who are new to this, even the most innocent knows her physical beauty is her ticket to admission and already has plenty of experience in being hit on. It would take only attendance at one party, or a brief conversation with someone who'd been there already, to learn what kind of men are at those parties and the role to be played.

There's a whole lot that's creepy about this, but it's not exactly being drugged and raped behind a bar. And one of the most important functions of those confidentiality agreements would be to protect the men from predatory, even vicious, females. Even fake stories can be turned into real money if the victim's famous or wealthy enough.

Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)
5. "I have tremendous respect for women. Nobody will be better on women than . . . .
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:53 AM
Oct 2016

. . . . me. That I can tell you."

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
10. I can understand trump
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:03 AM
Oct 2016

He is one sick fuck, mentally unstable, and suffering from a set of personality disorders.

What I can't understand is how his numbers stay so high when stories like this keep coming up. Are his fans also deranged and mentally ill?

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
26. it is as though someone kicked an old, rusty garbage can lid
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:14 AM
Oct 2016

over in an abandoned junkyard, and all the cockroaches swarmed out.

I haven't seen such a rabid collection of racists, sexists, and flat earthers so energized. Of course, I never lived in the south and have never experienced the fool wrath of groups like the KKK. Nor am I a person of color who would have been targeted by society as something less than human.

Trump is responsible for energizing these folks. And like toothpaste, it is impossible to squeeze back in.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
27. A whole lot of his followers fantasize about being Trump
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:18 AM
Oct 2016

They have a very sick vicarious relationship with him.

Vogon_Glory

(9,127 posts)
12. I'm Trying To Imagine The Tsunami Of Outrage If The Big Dawg Had Been Doing That Sort Of Pawing
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:13 AM
Oct 2016

I'm trying to imagine the Tsunami of outrage from right-wing propaganda organs, talk radio, Repulican politicians, Movement Conservative apparatchiki, and church pulpits had Mister Bill indulged in that sort of behavior.

And what sort of reaction we're going to hear from the Republican Party and their friends behind the pulpits and behind the broadcasters' microphones now that some history has re-emerged? Well, I'm sure they'll get back to us.

In the meantime, enjoy the gentle, distant chirping of crickets in the background.

But after all, IOKALAYAAR.

AllyCat

(16,216 posts)
15. Double Ick reznor73.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:02 AM
Oct 2016

I'm completely nauseous at this point. Can't imagine how this poor woman felt. ugh.

Response to reznor73 (Reply #14)

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
16. He *sure* likes getting sexual in Ivanka's bedroom. This is the second reporting by someone who
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:05 AM
Oct 2016

was pushed into his daughter's bedroom and was sexually assaulted.

Methinks Trump has the hots for his own daughter. EEEW.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
29. He says he is restraining himself in mentioning Bill's infidelities, he would be opening a large can
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:33 AM
Oct 2016

of worms, he says Bill is a rapists, Trump is the rapists. Again he accuses someone else of the transgressions he is guilty.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
30. Vomit.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 03:29 PM
Oct 2016

Poster boy for Malevolent Narcissism. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is in the same cluster (cluster B) as Anti-Social Personality Disorder and Sociopathy/Psychopathy.

The basic characteristics of those PD's are pretty similar, being distinguished mostly by degree and somewhat subjective connotations attached to the terminology.

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