2016 Postmortem

Andy823

(11,495 posts) Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:34 PM Oct 2016

So how long does Pence have

He has to say something. How does he get out of this one? He has two real options. One he can keep playing his little game of "Trump didn't say that", like he did at the debate, or if he really wants to run in 2020, he has to denounce Trump and step down as the VP. If he took Trumps place, the die hard Trump gang would think this was a plot to take Trump down, and no matter who took Trumps place, they would lose all those voters that have ignored all the other crap Trump has done so far, and without those votes, the republicans can't win.

The longer Pence waits to speak out, the worse it is going to be for him. He is pretty much in a no win position right now. What will he do?

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So how long does Pence have (Original Post) Andy823 Oct 2016 OP

He'll stick to whatever line the campaign comes up with relayerbob Oct 2016 #1

True, but Andy823 Oct 2016 #4

People won't even remember his name by Nov 10 relayerbob Oct 2016 #6

I would be shocked if he disavowed Trump and stepped away from the ticket. Siwsan Oct 2016 #2

It is going to be interesting Andy823 Oct 2016 #7

Pence will say: That's not what he said! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #3

Strangely silent ailsagirl Oct 2016 #5

Yes and the longer he takes Andy823 Oct 2016 #9

Pence will be nothing by 2020 radical noodle Oct 2016 #8

Too much bad baggage to get anywhere near the WH ailsagirl Oct 2016 #10

True, but Andy823 Oct 2016 #11

He wanted desperately to run for president this time radical noodle Oct 2016 #12

Well now Andy823 Oct 2016 #13

And Pence deserves to burn there! radical noodle Oct 2016 #15

Pence was in a no-win situation before he became the VP pick. apnu Oct 2016 #14

THIS ^^^^^^ radical noodle Oct 2016 #16

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)

1. He'll stick to whatever line the campaign comes up with

Reply to Andy823 (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:36 PM

Oct 2016

and avoid answering any questions

Andy823

(11,495 posts)

4. True, but

Reply to relayerbob (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:39 PM

Oct 2016

He can't avoid the press till the election is over. If he doesn't speak out, it will make him look bad and spoil his chances in 2020.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)

6. People won't even remember his name by Nov 10

Reply to Andy823 (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:40 PM

Oct 2016

Siwsan

(26,266 posts)

2. I would be shocked if he disavowed Trump and stepped away from the ticket.

Reply to Andy823 (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:37 PM

Oct 2016

Although it might be his only chance of salvaging any hope to run in 2020. Guess we will see how much of a gambler he is.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)

7. It is going to be interesting

Reply to Siwsan (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:41 PM

Oct 2016

That's for sure. I thought he was looking out for himself in the debate, positioning himself for 2020, but if he stays with Trump on this, I think his chances for 2020 are over.

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)

3. Pence will say: That's not what he said!

Reply to Andy823 (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:38 PM

Oct 2016

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)

5. Strangely silent

Reply to Andy823 (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:39 PM

Oct 2016

Let's see him dance away from this one

Andy823

(11,495 posts)

9. Yes and the longer he takes

Reply to ailsagirl (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:43 PM

Oct 2016

To speak out, the worse it will be for him. He will have to do a lot of dancing on this one to keep his hopes for 2020 going.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)

8. Pence will be nothing by 2020

Reply to Andy823 (Original post)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:41 PM

Oct 2016

Indiana was cheering his departure. He'll no longer be a governor or anything else. If he makes noises about running all the bad stuff about him will come spilling out. At least that's my hope.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)

10. Too much bad baggage to get anywhere near the WH

Reply to radical noodle (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:44 PM

Oct 2016

It will follow him forever

Andy823

(11,495 posts)

11. True, but

Reply to radical noodle (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:44 PM

Oct 2016

He has plans, I could see that in the way he responded at the debate. He wants to run in 2020, but he has to make a choice now on how to handle this mess.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)

12. He wanted desperately to run for president this time

Reply to Andy823 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:49 PM

Oct 2016

but knew he couldn't because of the stuff he'd done. Being Trump's VP pick was his gift from God.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)

13. Well now

Reply to radical noodle (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:06 AM

Oct 2016

It's the gift from hell!

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)

15. And Pence deserves to burn there!

Reply to Andy823 (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:12 AM

Oct 2016

I sure don't want this crap to lift Pence up in the GOP.

apnu

(8,758 posts)

14. Pence was in a no-win situation before he became the VP pick.

Reply to Andy823 (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:11 AM

Oct 2016

Pence only took this gig because he's going to lose his govenorship in Indiana. 'Periods for Pence' killed him. Pence was politically dead before Trump picked him. Trump, as usual, showed he only picks losers. Why we can only guess, but I suspect it is because Trump likes to pretend he.'s the big dog, and surrounds himself with little dogs to reinforce this fantasy.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)

16. THIS ^^^^^^

Reply to apnu (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:14 AM

Oct 2016

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