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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:59 PM Oct 2016

What path is availibe to the Republican Party if Trump should Resign?

Not that he will ..that's not my question.
Just knowing the Repubs called for a closed door meeting tonight, & tomorrow Ryan will appear with Pence instead of Trump.

Suppose Trump just announces he's resigning.
CYA- Bye & he's gone.

What would the Repubs do in such a scenario?
Early voting has already begun. Ballots are printed. What can they realistically and legally do?

They have to make a decision...???

Just curious since I do not know what they are allowed, in a case like that.
Thanks

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What path is availibe to the Republican Party if Trump should Resign? (Original Post) misterhighwasted Oct 2016 OP
I'd like to know too Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #1
My first choice is that they dissolve and are saltpoint Oct 2016 #2
Poof. I prefer that too but Trump has definately blown up the Repub game for awhile! misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #11
Yep. It's going to be a tense week saltpoint Oct 2016 #14
Total meltdown!!! RKP5637 Oct 2016 #26
Yep. When you're in the mood for saltpoint Oct 2016 #29
GOP = RKP5637 Oct 2016 #35
Kinda like that picture. Long before the saltpoint Oct 2016 #36
They're f*cked Freddie Oct 2016 #3
He cannot resign oberliner Oct 2016 #4
Sooo..they're stuck with him? Maybe that's it! Trump will just be holed up out of public view till misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #17
Yes indeed oberliner Oct 2016 #18
I hope he does stay in full bore. It's going so well for us kinda hate to have it messed with. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #38
Agreed oberliner Oct 2016 #40
Each state will be different exboyfil Oct 2016 #5
They're screwed relayerbob Oct 2016 #6
no, there are more steps -- the electoral college, and the house in case there's no majority. unblock Oct 2016 #10
Of course relayerbob Oct 2016 #33
"Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?" :) nt TeamPooka Oct 2016 #7
the rnc picks a new nominee. too late to change most ballots but some states may still allow it. unblock Oct 2016 #8
I'm pretty sure Trump is already denied 270 EC votes. Zero chance in hell this goes to a tie. BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #12
Right, very unlikely a new candidate could beat hillary unblock Oct 2016 #16
Trump. Will. NOT. Quit. BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #9
My question is purely one of theory. A scenario. A question that was asked simply out of curiosity. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #20
Something tells me that if you type "what happens if" into Google tonight... BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #23
What happens if .99center Oct 2016 #48
What *should* happen is Hillary wins by default BadDog40 Oct 2016 #13
The RNC must reconvene the convention and make a new nomination. Binkie The Clown Oct 2016 #15
So lets say they make a new nomination. LisaL Oct 2016 #19
OR I could ask here on DU and begin a conversation for those who wish to add what misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #25
Sorry. The questions has been asked in so many thread already... Binkie The Clown Oct 2016 #42
Understood. I haven't spent a lot of time here today. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #43
No, if there's a vacancy it can be filled by reconvening the convention OR by the RNC Jim Lane Oct 2016 #45
They announce that a vote for Trump will be a vote for ______ Orangepeel Oct 2016 #21
How would that work? LisaL Oct 2016 #22
Electoral College. When people vote for Trump (or Hillary, or whoever) Orangepeel Oct 2016 #24
I think they're stuck with him. Considering the short time that's left. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #30
Moot point... lilsourgoose Oct 2016 #31
But if the phantom candidate somehow managed to get 270, the possible mixed convictions tandem5 Oct 2016 #27
And Speaker Ryan selects the winner. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #34
Of course it wouldn't be successful for them (nt) Orangepeel Oct 2016 #46
Seppuku C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #28
Trump, will not quit, unless he can rationalize in his own deranged mind some extraordinary excuse. RKP5637 Oct 2016 #32
Washington Post: "There’s no longer any way for Republicans to boot Donald Trump from the ballot" Koinos Oct 2016 #37
Thanks. That's a good read & yes there just is not enough time. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #41
Paul Ryan is waiting in the wings Generic Brad Oct 2016 #39
That's it!! Sniveling Weasel misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #44
If Trump walked (or was yanked), the fair thing to do would be to give the top slot Vinca Oct 2016 #47

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. My first choice is that they dissolve and are
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:00 PM
Oct 2016

never heard from again. Second choice...

Actually, I don't have a second choice.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
11. Poof. I prefer that too but Trump has definately blown up the Repub game for awhile!
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:06 PM
Oct 2016

Did they not see the female hand of Karma swiftly approaching? Wtf!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
36. Kinda like that picture. Long before the
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:46 PM
Oct 2016

primary season began, the GOP heavy hitters were making every effort they could to minimize the drama en route to the convention.

Looks like things took a wrong turn somewhere.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. He cannot resign
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

He is the nominee. Voting has started. He can resign if he gets elected, and then the VP would take over.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
17. Sooo..they're stuck with him? Maybe that's it! Trump will just be holed up out of public view till
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:13 PM
Oct 2016

..the election and Ryan now steps in as proxy candidate till its over. We never see nor hear from Trump. We get Ryan/Pence till Nov 8th.
Sooo... Ryan rides in on his white horse & saves the Repub Party.
I can actually see this happening. They will campaign for the Repub Senators & Reps for the duration..

Well that's one possibility

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Yes indeed
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:17 PM
Oct 2016

But I think he will do the opposite of what you are suggesting here.

I predict he still runs full bore as he has been.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
38. I hope he does stay in full bore. It's going so well for us kinda hate to have it messed with.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:48 PM
Oct 2016

This campaign is so bizarre!
I just want it over at this point.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
5. Each state will be different
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:04 PM
Oct 2016

and you don't actually directly vote for the candidate. It can be a real mess. The Democrats did sub out Torricelli this late in a Senate race.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
6. They're screwed
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:04 PM
Oct 2016

The Constitution doesn't recognize political parties, but individuals. Trump is on the ballot and he is who people are voting for. Anything else will end up in the Supreme Court, to say nothing of what 14 million RWNJs will do

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
33. Of course
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:41 PM
Oct 2016

The name Donald J Trump is on the ballot. The GOP can disavow and disown him all they want. We vote for parties from convention, Constitutionally, it's the individual that wins or loses. If "Donald J Trump" wins the election, no matter who the GOP pretends it is, it is *his*. You could only adjust that by convincing the electoral college to vote for someone else. The House only gets involved if the electoral college can't get a majority.

Any attempt to cause any of that could and likely would result in a suit to invalidate the action and very likely found in Trump's favor, which could create some major disruption/distraction. But yes, this is actually part of the reason for the electoral college in the first place.

But in any case, to override the clear desire of voters, and then force him off the ballot will have major consequences. It's a losing strategy, no one would be dumb enough to agree to it and try to be President. Too late for any sort of campaign or prep, to say nothing of not being able to get onto ballots.

His followers would likely be trying to take things into their own hands before any of that.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
8. the rnc picks a new nominee. too late to change most ballots but some states may still allow it.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:05 PM
Oct 2016

they encourage people to vote for the republican ticket no matter what the ballot says.

in the unlikely event that the republican ticket wins, then attention shifts to the electoral college.

most states require their electors to vote for the assigned candidate, though sometimes a few are faithless and vote for someone else. so most trump electors vote for trump, but a few trump electors vote for the new guy, and the few electors from states that allowed a change certainly vote for the new guy.

in any event, the idea is to deny trump 270 actual votes in the electoral college. this throws the election into the house, which then picks the new guy.


 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
12. I'm pretty sure Trump is already denied 270 EC votes. Zero chance in hell this goes to a tie.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Oct 2016

The GOP's favorable scenarios are all imploding.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
16. Right, very unlikely a new candidate could beat hillary
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:10 PM
Oct 2016

Under such circus circumstances.

This is all theoretical.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
9. Trump. Will. NOT. Quit.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:06 PM
Oct 2016

Have you been paying attention to what kind of person he is? He thinks this is working. He is PROUD of this shit! His non-apology is evidence of that.

The GOP's hands are tied, Trump will not relinquish the nomination for any reason.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
20. My question is purely one of theory. A scenario. A question that was asked simply out of curiosity.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:21 PM
Oct 2016

A what if...what alternative would be availible in such a scenario because I do not know the procedure. So I asked.
Not questioning IF Trump will resign, but how such a scenario plays out in our election laws.


 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
23. Something tells me that if you type "what happens if" into Google tonight...
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:27 PM
Oct 2016

...the first result is "a presidential candidate quits."

Yeah, it's worth considering, if just to make sure it's actually legal. The GOP has to follow its own rules when it comes to this, and I saw somewhere else that it's death, illness, or quitting, with no other options for replacement. And I bet that having known Putin for as long as he has, just for his own safety, Trump is pretty much poison-proof at this point.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
15. The RNC must reconvene the convention and make a new nomination.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:10 PM
Oct 2016

The rules are a matter of public record. Look them up.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
19. So lets say they make a new nomination.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:18 PM
Oct 2016

Trump is on the ballot and people are already voting. How would they go around that?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
25. OR I could ask here on DU and begin a conversation for those who wish to add what
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:30 PM
Oct 2016

..they know or perhaps inform other posters who ALSO MAY NOT KNOW BUT WOULD FIND IT AN INTERESTING SCENARIO TO DISCUSS.

or I could Look It Up.
But then that would defeat the reason for beginning the conversation.
I don't mind when a DUer posts a question.
I am more than happy to join the conversation and add what I can or be enlightened by others answers.

I have never told someone who asks a question on DU to Look it Up

wtf.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
42. Sorry. The questions has been asked in so many thread already...
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:31 AM
Oct 2016

...I suppose I was getting tired of reading it over and over.

Didn't mean to be rude.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
43. Understood. I haven't spent a lot of time here today.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:52 AM
Oct 2016

Its been a long & wearing campaign on all of us.

It needs to be over.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
45. No, if there's a vacancy it can be filled by reconvening the convention OR by the RNC
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:57 AM
Oct 2016

If, for example,a presidential or vice-presidential candidate were to die a week before the election, so that reconvening was absolutely impossible, neither major party would allow the other party to win by default. Each party allows its national committee to fill a vacancy.

The problem for the GOP is that the RNC can't create a vacancy.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
21. They announce that a vote for Trump will be a vote for ______
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:22 PM
Oct 2016

And then convince the electors to vote for _______ on December 19

It won't be a successful plan, but that would have to be the plan. But Trump would have to resign and that is really unlikely.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
22. How would that work?
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:24 PM
Oct 2016

Some people already voted and whoever voted fro Trump, voted for Trump. Not somebody else. How could it be justified that vote for Trump is a vote for somebody else?

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
24. Electoral College. When people vote for Trump (or Hillary, or whoever)
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:28 PM
Oct 2016

They are really voting for the slate of people who will vote for president. Those people vote on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December (December 19, 2016).

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
30. I think they're stuck with him. Considering the short time that's left.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:38 PM
Oct 2016

Its normal for people to be concerned tho.
The Repub Party has proven to be completely untrustable with their desperate moves.

No one knows wtf they're up to next. Can't wait till this is finally over.

lilsourgoose

(92 posts)
31. Moot point...
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:39 PM
Oct 2016

But if Trump leaves, there will be two Republican candidates splitting votes. The Trump who is on the ballot, and the Pence (or whoever) who is the write-in vote. Those votes can not and would not automatically be combined. If either one of those candidates happened to beat out Hillary, THEN those electors would have the authority to cast their votes for one or the other. But with a split between Pence and Trump, it would be a tough task for either man alone to beat out Hillary...

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
27. But if the phantom candidate somehow managed to get 270, the possible mixed convictions
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:36 PM
Oct 2016

of the electors would not necessarily help the situation for us. If electors started to vote every which way nobody would reach 270 and it would be sent off to the House.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
34. And Speaker Ryan selects the winner.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:43 PM
Oct 2016

I'm certain the Repubs have looked at every possible angle to win this election and this may be their preferred choice, since Trump cannot win by our normal process.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
32. Trump, will not quit, unless he can rationalize in his own deranged mind some extraordinary excuse.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:40 PM
Oct 2016

There might even be such cognitive dissonance in his mind he will have a breakdown of sorts, maybe.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
41. Thanks. That's a good read & yes there just is not enough time.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:54 PM
Oct 2016

I think at best they will try to salvage their Senate & House seats.
They have to know they cannot win by votes, at this point.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
39. Paul Ryan is waiting in the wings
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:49 PM
Oct 2016

He was the first to denounce - no doubt to position himself (that sniveling weasel).

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
47. If Trump walked (or was yanked), the fair thing to do would be to give the top slot
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 05:55 AM
Oct 2016

to the next highest vote getter: Cruz. The GOP, of course, does not think fairly and would probably move Pence to the top of the ticket and draw names out of a hat for VP. If they were smart, they would cede this election right now and get on about the business of saving their party.

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