2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere is a real path for RNC to dump Trump by "Ticket Flip" to Pence using 25th Ammendment
The RNC could have the Trump/Pence on the ballot, but with a public agreement that Trump abdicates immediately after inauguration. The 25th amendment has provisions for a POTUS being "disabled, incapacitated, etc", and that the VP immediately succeeds him.
A modest proposal to replace Trump with Pence with or without Trumps consent
Trump could win the race, but Pence could run the country.
http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/10/6/13184492/flip-ticket-trump-pence-constitution
excerpt from article:
"...but even now, at this very late date in the election season, there is one last chance for the Republican establishment to dump Trump: by flipping the ticket and putting the plodding, but at least plausible, Mike Pence in charge...True, early voting has already begun in some places, and almost everywhere it is too late to revise ballots. But a flipped ticket does not require any formal ballot change..."
"...The first step of The Flip must begin very soon ideally, this week or next. At a joint press conference, Pence and Trump should with fanfare announce that, if they win in November, Pence will be in charge, thanks to the rules laid down by the Constitutions 25th Amendment, which was ratified in 1967 after the assassination of John F. Kennedy..."
"...At the press conference, Trump would solemnly pledge that on Inauguration Day, January 20, he will, only minutes after taking his oath of office, step aside by invoking the presidential disability provisions of Section Three of the Amendment much as he might step aside if he were undergoing a scheduled coronary bypass that day. He will give notice on Inauguration Day to the president pro tempore of the Senate and the speaker of the house that he is "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office...once Trump does step aside on Inauguration Day, Pence would automatically become acting president of the United States under Section Three, entitled to all the powers of the office until Trump seeks to reassert his rights which Trump at the press conference must promise he will never do. Trump, however, would technically retain the title of president."
He gets to be a reality tv star, play POTUS without being POTUS, and most importantly for HIM, he WINS. He hates losing and losers, so he might just take this shot.
I suspect he would have a much greater chance if this were to be done.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)in return.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Republican Party wants badly. He will ask for something valuable in return brokered by the GOP through the private sector IMO.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Even if they tried that, they would have to make a general announcement to everyone and once the public got hold of it, they'd be even more energized to vote for Hillary just to slam the Con.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Pigs will fly first.
The author of this mess "suspect(s) he will have a much greater chance...?" Really? Hate-filled people will vote for a guy who gets their blood boiling and incites them to excitable hatred KNOWING that he's going to wuss out and not lead them, and instead let the jerk who would not defend his evil boss in debate run the show?
The Trump supporters don't want anyone else but Trump. THEY would not agree to that sort of thing. They're not voting for Pence to be the leader. They want the Donald, with all his bile and vitriol. Pence is the LACKEY.
That article is the walking, talking definition of flopsweat desperation.
Smell those warmed up slices of bread? He's TOAST.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)There are barely enough GOP voters for President to keep them competitive as it is. Split that up even further and there's zero chance they can win. Even if 75% of Republican voters went for it he would still get demolished.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Now or at any point in the future? The guy is sick - I mean diagnosably sick. He is a Narcissist - which is a real physchological diagnosis. It means he sees himself as incapable of making a mistake - ever.
Ever see Dr. Strangelove? Remember Slim Pickens riding that nuclear warhead like a buck-in' bronc? That's Trump - only he doesn't think he's going to die when it hits the ground.
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upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)He can pull a Rodney Dangerfield - "ooh my arm, it's broken"
If he DOES win? No frickken way he stops down after that.
This article is stupid.
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