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djsunyc

(169 posts)
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:16 AM Oct 2016

how did we get here?

i'm relatively new here so please excuse this...but HOW THE F CK DID WE GET HERE?

8 years ago...the country was coming together...it was time to bring a person of color into power. the people spoke and it was time for change.

now 8 years later...we have a major party represented by a sexist, racist, xenophobic, blithering idiot? he tapped into the racist/sexist/xenophobic characteristic that still exists in our country.

i still can't believe this guy won the republican party nomination and that so many politicians are backing him.

can someone explain to me...WTF is going on here?

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radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
1. Electing a black president
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:23 AM
Oct 2016

brought out the racists in full force. Combine that with many people getting altered "news" on Fox and lies from Limbaugh, Alex Jones and Allen West... there are a group of people who have been angry for 8 years that there's a black man in the White House. The only people I know who support Trump also believed all the racist crap about Obama and even though some of them try to hide their racism, it's pretty obvious.

At least that's my personal belief.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
2. A Black man has been living in the White House
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:24 AM
Oct 2016

along with his black family.

We only thought the country was coming together.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
8. They saw him as uppity
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 03:06 AM
Oct 2016

How dare he be intelligent, articulate, handsome, respected the world over, and fucking COOL on top of it all????

I love this man, and his wonderful family.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
9. I know-- me too
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:15 AM
Oct 2016

But I'm also waiting expectantly to find out what these remarkable people will do next.

True Dough

(17,305 posts)
4. There is the racist hate for Obama
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:47 AM
Oct 2016

but there is also a very powerful anti-Hillary movement. Whether it's due to sexism, or the perception that she's in the pockets of corporate executives or that she's above the law, there's a pool of people out there who insist Trump is still better than Clinton. It's stupefying!

canetoad

(17,166 posts)
6. The founding fathers
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:49 AM
Oct 2016

Didn't forsee the radio, TV, internet when they decided in favour of direct election.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
7. This is the culmination of the reaction to 8 years ago, as well as a continuation of a long history.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 03:03 AM
Oct 2016

I remember the night Obama was elected. I was watching the results come in with my wife. When they announced officially that the US had elected a Black President, I became emotional. It just hit me, after 220 years, someone who had more in common with me had been elected to arguably the most powerful position in the world. The magnitude of the moment was immense.

Not long after, we started to hear about the meeting with Republican leadership. Just an murmur, then more... you started to get information on the explosion of right wing hate groups. Sovereign Citizens, Militias, and all manner of other groups. You had the birthers who were led by the current Republican candidate for President. The rise of Breitbart, WND, Newsmax, Glenn Beck, etc... Limbaugh was hitting his peak. Why? What was different? They hated Clinton but things were never this bad. Obama had more death threats than any other President.

The same thing that you say, brought many people together, woke that ugly side of America that was always just beneath the surface. If you are not a person of color, it may seem as if things just happened all of a sudden. Many people like me have been dealing with subtle forms of what has broken out with Donald Trump today, all of our lives.

Try to think about it this way. 150 years ago, Black people were still considered property. That is not too long ago. It took another 100 years for the law of the land to finally, explicitly say that Black people could fully participate in civic life (though many states and municipalities continued to defy those laws). With regards to women, they only gained the right to vote about 96 years ago. There are women alive today, who did not have the right to vote. It was 1971, 2 years before I was born when the last anti-miscegenation laws were struck down. Less than 45 years ago it was illegal for Black and White people to marry in several states. You need to wrap your head around that. In the 1950's Several hundred thousand Mexicans were deported in a program called Operation Wetback, including 11,000 documented worker and American citizens of Mexican ancestry, without any process to prove their status.

There has been progress legally and socially, but there are still generations of people who truly believe that Black People, Brown People, and Women are inferior. Those people are getting older and they are dying out, but they are not going gently and things look to get uglier before they get better.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
10. We are proud to have been able to vote for Obama in 2012
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:21 AM
Oct 2016

Became US citizens in 2010.

3 of us so far in a family of 5. 3 daughters.

All left / Democratic.

I am still dumbfounded by the racism here but love the people who want progress.

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