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In my view Hillary and the campaign, unless asked, do not need to pile on. It has a life of its (Original Post) still_one Oct 2016 OP
She will have to address it tomorrow. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #1
hillary/campaign just need to have trump keep being trump beachbum bob Oct 2016 #3
Of course, and she will address it just fine. My point is let the media pursue him on this still_one Oct 2016 #6
I think that is exactly what she will TRY to do. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #9
of course. there is blood in the water. Her one sentence comment to the effect that "this shows still_one Oct 2016 #16
I think she needs to use the words "sexual assault" and "coworkers" because those two things are bettyellen Oct 2016 #28
and she may, and while the issue is an important one to discuss, that is, sexual still_one Oct 2016 #31
Well she does need-and will doubtless have good sufficient answers at the debate. She always does. bettyellen Oct 2016 #32
I agree, she is very saavy and knows how deal with this. I really hope this provides an still_one Oct 2016 #33
It's interesting that you assume she would completely control house Dems... bettyellen Oct 2016 #34
I am not naivee, and am well aware of what the blue dogs did to President Obama in his first term still_one Oct 2016 #35
Well, let's see where the pundits take this. Chemisse Oct 2016 #2
I agree. still_one Oct 2016 #7
Hillary Needs To Stick To The Issues..... global1 Oct 2016 #4
Exactly, and I think she will. still_one Oct 2016 #8
Rubbish! longship Oct 2016 #5
The media will pursue the 2005 recording quite efficiently. Her surrogates will do the same. still_one Oct 2016 #11
Reach around your back. Feel that? It's called a spine. Team Hillary will CRUSH him with this! RBInMaine Oct 2016 #10
The media and her surrogates will do that quite well, she doesn't have to. Yes, pointing out, which still_one Oct 2016 #14
She won't have to bring this up. Donnie has been humiliated in public, forced to apologise publicly OnDoutside Oct 2016 #12
They don't need to C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #13
She won't address it first but what will happen is they will ask Trump about his conduct book_worm Oct 2016 #15
You are right, that will happen, and she will hit back hard, and bring in issues such as the still_one Oct 2016 #18
Also, a consensual affair is not the same as assault. nt tblue37 Oct 2016 #21
agreed, but I don't think it will go to that level of detail still_one Oct 2016 #22
Stressing that he is talking about assaulting coworkers is a detail? Nope it goes to the heart of it bettyellen Oct 2016 #29
The campaign has already tweeted about it oberliner Oct 2016 #17
To me those are the right response. They were very brief and to the point still_one Oct 2016 #19
Agreed oberliner Oct 2016 #24
It will be, and there will be uncomfortable questions asked no doubt still_one Oct 2016 #26
Hillary won't say anything unless directly asked. Yesterday's stunned tweet tblue37 Oct 2016 #20
I think you are right. I also have no doubt she will be directly asked, and will do just still_one Oct 2016 #23
This is important... WiffenPoof Oct 2016 #25
As far as I am concerned, you encapsulated it perfectly still_one Oct 2016 #27
I wouldn't go that far... Adrahil Oct 2016 #30

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
1. She will have to address it tomorrow.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:35 AM
Oct 2016

The audience and the moderators will definitely ask questions about this.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. hillary/campaign just need to have trump keep being trump
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:39 AM
Oct 2016

.....I will say sunday night will the nastiness night of politics we have ever seen, I guarantee mad dog trump will be a rabid frenzy after the first female audience member puts him on the spot for his life long disrespectful behavior and attitudes towards women...and trump will always frame his replies to blame Bill and Hillary....we may see a new shimmy from Hillary

still_one

(92,204 posts)
6. Of course, and she will address it just fine. My point is let the media pursue him on this
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:55 AM
Oct 2016

Hillary will go after him on the issues at a higher level. That includes the Supreme Court, his racism, sexism, and xenophobia, but also the draconian policies that the republicans have been pushing on the American people for a long time

For months trump has be spewing racist, sexist rants, while the media essentially ignored it. Now a 2005 recording comes to light, and suddenly the media feigns shock when this has been going on all along during campaign. It wasn't that long ago when he made the Megan Kelly menstrual cycle comment.

Don't get me wrong, I hope this not only destroys trump, but the republican party as it stands today.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
9. I think that is exactly what she will TRY to do.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:02 AM
Oct 2016

However, this thing has powerful legs, and I think the audience will be all over it tomorrow. It goes to the questions about character. We all know how that will work out for Groper Don.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
16. of course. there is blood in the water. Her one sentence comment to the effect that "this shows
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:24 AM
Oct 2016

that trump is not fit to be President" is the perfect measured response

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
28. I think she needs to use the words "sexual assault" and "coworkers" because those two things are
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:13 AM
Oct 2016

Not clear enough. Both women he discussed on tape he had professional relationships with- and one he tried to get fired. She should make sure people realize that it's not "just personal" or "a joke".

still_one

(92,204 posts)
31. and she may, and while the issue is an important one to discuss, that is, sexual
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:41 AM
Oct 2016

assault and harassment, this can very quickly evolve into a foray of distractions.

Bill Clinton, and his sexual harassment past will be brought into the picture by the republicans and the trump campaign, and though Bill Clinton isn't running for President, the distraction I believe will be diverted in this form. They will criticize Hillary for remaining with Bill Clinton, and hurl other innuendos in the same direction.

Even though this amounts to blaming the victim, I think if Hillary personally pushes in that direction, it will get thrown back to her in the form of the past behaviors of Bill Clinton, and the issue of sexual harassment will be lost in a distraction of "one side is as bad as the other". It won't matter if Hillary was the victim. Bill Clinton is part of her campaign.

Her surrogates can and will be the ones who will handle the nitty gritty

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
32. Well she does need-and will doubtless have good sufficient answers at the debate. She always does.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:06 PM
Oct 2016

It's not something she can wish away at this moment, but I'm surliness you think she'd actively want to keep rolling in the mud. That doesn't sound anything like Hillary, so I think your concerns are unfounded.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
33. I agree, she is very saavy and knows how deal with this. I really hope this provides an
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:21 PM
Oct 2016

opportunity not only to take the Senate, but also the house. That would be amazing, it would change the entire direction of the country. If that happened there would be no excuse for not getting progressive change done

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
34. It's interesting that you assume she would completely control house Dems...
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:23 PM
Oct 2016

They actually have to answer to their own diverse constituencies. I'm excited at the possibility of a lot of progress, but the process is never all that easy.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
35. I am not naivee, and am well aware of what the blue dogs did to President Obama in his first term
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 02:44 PM
Oct 2016

I only speculate, hope, wish for that. If no thing else that should at least be advanced by SC appointments

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
2. Well, let's see where the pundits take this.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:38 AM
Oct 2016

If Morning Joe starts talking about the way guys talk when they are together, or how Bill Clinton did worse (where does that allegation even COME from?), then we know we will need more drip, drip on this.

I think more women stepping forward will help considerably in driving this point home.

global1

(25,251 posts)
4. Hillary Needs To Stick To The Issues.....
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:41 AM
Oct 2016

she needs to go after the Repugs and how they have sandbagged Obama and gridlocked Congress. This is an opportunity to go after the down ballot Repugs and take back Congress.

Let Trump be Trump and continue to shoot himself in the foot. Hillary needs to be Presidential now and show the American People what it means to be Presidential.

Trump has no concept of being 'presidential'.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Rubbish!
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:42 AM
Oct 2016

Hillary needs to bring this up! This is a guy who we don't anywhere near the White House.

Drumpf has no privilege here. He abrogated that when he announced his candidacy.

Let him stew in the clusterfuck of his own doing.

He's fair game.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
11. The media will pursue the 2005 recording quite efficiently. Her surrogates will do the same.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:14 AM
Oct 2016

She needs to continue the message of how she will bring back jobs, the Supreme Court, over-turn Citizens United, preserve Social Security and Medicare, healthcare that works for everyone.

She has already taken a minimalist approach to this by a simple one line statement, "this demonstrates that Trump isn't fit to be President.", and that is perfect





 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
10. Reach around your back. Feel that? It's called a spine. Team Hillary will CRUSH him with this!
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:06 AM
Oct 2016

And they should. Yes, stick to other issues too, but Trump is morally unfit for the presidency, and they must go in for the political kill. No quarter! They will crush him with this and much more, and they damn well should.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
14. The media and her surrogates will do that quite well, she doesn't have to. Yes, pointing out, which
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:21 AM
Oct 2016

she has, that trump is not fit to be president, is right on message. Frankly, I am amazed that all the racist and sexist comments that have come out of the trump campaign didn't go against him sooner. Timing couldn't be more ideal though.

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
12. She won't have to bring this up. Donnie has been humiliated in public, forced to apologise publicly
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:18 AM
Oct 2016

for perhaps the first time in his life, plus he blames Kellyanne for him losing the last debate. I would be shocked if he didn't do it HIS way and go full metal jacket in this debate. It will all come out.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
13. They don't need to
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:21 AM
Oct 2016

Trump's words and actions speak very clearly for themselves.

Trump would actually love to draw Hillary into a mud fight
and create 'two equal sides'. The only way to win is not to
play that game (Joshua).

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
15. She won't address it first but what will happen is they will ask Trump about his conduct
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:22 AM
Oct 2016

and then try and turn the tables and ask Hillary about Bill's conduct--because, of course, they have to be "fair."

still_one

(92,204 posts)
18. You are right, that will happen, and she will hit back hard, and bring in issues such as the
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:33 AM
Oct 2016

Supreme Court, "forced vaginal probes", the blatant racism and sexism that has been the foundation of the Trump campaign from the start, along with the support of the republican leaders in Congress.

If they bring up Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton isn't running for President. If they approach it by saying she is an "enabler", that is the typical sexist attack that is used to blame the victim, and will be thrown right back into their ugly faces

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. Stressing that he is talking about assaulting coworkers is a detail? Nope it goes to the heart of it
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:15 AM
Oct 2016
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. The campaign has already tweeted about it
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:24 AM
Oct 2016

Hillary Clinton
This is horrific. We cannot allow this man to become president.

Senator Tim Kaine
This kind of behavior is disgusting. It makes me sick to my stomach.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Agreed
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:50 AM
Oct 2016

It will be interesting to see how HRC responds (or doesn't) when Trump starts slinging mud tomorrow at the town hall.

tblue37

(65,391 posts)
20. Hillary won't say anything unless directly asked. Yesterday's stunned tweet
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 09:47 AM
Oct 2016

will be her statement unless she is pressed on it by, well, the press.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
25. This is important...
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:01 AM
Oct 2016

She needs to let this live and thrive on its own. This will demonstrate class and calm. This does not mean that she should ignore the issue... But let others feed the breast.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
30. I wouldn't go that far...
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:16 AM
Oct 2016

But I agree that there is no need to press this. It has legs all on its own. Respond and comment, but no need to be a driver.

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