2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUSC/LA Times Poll October 8. Clinton 43, Trump 46. Trump +3
Isn't it time that they throw that poll away and start over?
The USC/LA Times poll is an embarrassing fiasco
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Their methodology is making it a consistent outlier and may be embarrassing them, but they figure they'll learn if they should have tossed it in November.
Lots of people have questions about the USC/L.A. Times tracking poll; here are some answers
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-poll-faq-20161006-snap-story.html
still_one
(92,190 posts)to vote for each of the two major candidates or for some other candidate.
What the heck does that mean anyway? It is too subjective
Not unlike the medical profession asking on a level of 0 to 10, how much pain are you experiencing.
As when my Dad was asked that question, his reply was, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't in pain.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and am not convinced of the value of continuing with this model. As you say--doctors never explain what 10 pain might be, and the range of answers is very silly; but they do it because even sometimes very unreliable answers that have to be assessed against other observations are better than not asking the question. In this case, the pollsters are obtaining information resulting from different methodology, and it's apparently of value to some for that.
Until and if there's a horrible November surprise, I'm not among them either. I just have a problem with those few who call for keeping disagreeable results off DU. Yes, if they're from a poll designed specifically to fool people into believing what is not true. But that's not what USC/LA Times is doing.
still_one
(92,190 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)But the best measure is accuracy predicting elections. And we don't have data for this yet for this poll.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)kevink077
(365 posts)Nobody should pay attention to this fraud poll.
still_one
(92,190 posts)this poll out. It is an insult to the legitimate pollsters, and the intelligence of the American people
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)from the start, and instead of correcting the flaws, they keep reporting the same bad data.
Garbage in Garbage out
smorkingapple
(827 posts)Measured take. As always, cant use just one and toss it away because we don't like the results.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-leave-the-la-times-poll-alone/
RAFisher
(466 posts)A daily tracking poll is great in that it measures the same group of people to see what changes. The problem is that it doesn't re-sample so any skewness in the sample will remain constant.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)Doodley
(9,091 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)embarrass themselves by using the same flawed modeling and sampling, instead of making the appropriate corrections.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Unless they provide him with evidence that they are doing a real poll with proper methodology.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Give it a week and even this poll will be Hillary +10. No need to fret over polls anymore, the race is over. The only question is how much the Dems can capitalize down ticket on this GOP calamity.