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TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:48 AM Oct 2016

Are you watching AMJoy???

She just explained to some white guy that he did not speak for the African American community.
She also pointed out that a poll of 400 people is meaningless. She know her facts.

I don't think she called him on calling Ben Carson a "leader in the African American community".....I doubt that he is.

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Are you watching AMJoy??? (Original Post) TNNurse Oct 2016 OP
Creepy religious leader from FL. Still support the p---y grabber. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #1
Yeah jcgoldie Oct 2016 #3
Someone needs to tell Trump HipChick Oct 2016 #13
And make him President of the United States. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #17
A poll of 400 people is actually not meaningless oberliner Oct 2016 #2
The poll in question has been discredited repeatedly jcgoldie Oct 2016 #4
"She also pointed out that a poll of 400 people is meaningless." is what the OP wrote oberliner Oct 2016 #5
That was not the crux of Reid's argument jcgoldie Oct 2016 #8
Understood oberliner Oct 2016 #11
It doesn't have to be meaningless Mchill17 Oct 2016 #26
Huh, only if the sampling is representative Foggyhill Oct 2016 #20
What a slimebag he was. BSdetect Oct 2016 #6
She continues to impress. TNNurse Oct 2016 #7
Watching. She's awesome! SCRUBDASHRUB Oct 2016 #10
drumph uber alles? BSdetect Oct 2016 #9
She just said 'asshole' on live TV. Ace Rothstein Oct 2016 #12
Did she?!? bettyellen Oct 2016 #15
She was reading a tweet from one of the Central Park Five. Ace Rothstein Oct 2016 #16
Verdugo is obviously worried that his own nasty history may be exposed BSdetect Oct 2016 #14
Those so called polls are made unprofessionally Foggyhill Oct 2016 #18
Say, maybe 400 people at a Trump rally..... TNNurse Oct 2016 #19
I appreciate the correction on my statement about poll size. TNNurse Oct 2016 #21
I heard about 2/3 of the show.....it was among the best she's ever done, even including Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #22
Have had enough of this for today TNNurse Oct 2016 #23
good for you! I went to bed at 6AM this morning, after watching nonstop since 3PM Gabi Hayes Oct 2016 #24
I love AMJOY Gothmog Oct 2016 #25

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
3. Yeah
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:52 AM
Oct 2016

His argument was evangelicals need to exercise compassion and forgive Donald Trump for all the racist and sexist shit he's said in the past

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
13. Someone needs to tell Trump
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:06 AM
Oct 2016

no self-respecting African American will be voting for him...will be -1%

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. A poll of 400 people is actually not meaningless
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:51 AM
Oct 2016

In fact, that's more than enough of a sample size for a poll to be statistically significant.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
4. The poll in question has been discredited repeatedly
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:53 AM
Oct 2016

It has nothing to do with the number of respondents.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. "She also pointed out that a poll of 400 people is meaningless." is what the OP wrote
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:54 AM
Oct 2016

I am saying that a poll of 400 people is not meaningless.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
8. That was not the crux of Reid's argument
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:57 AM
Oct 2016

She was speaking about that LA Times poll about which Nate Silver has said this:

"This has been a fairly consistent difference between this poll and most others. Take the LA Times poll, add 6 points to Clinton, and you usually wind up with something close to the FiveThirtyEight or RealClearPolitics national polling average. What’s the source of the LA Times poll’s Trump lean? There are good “explainers” from The New York Times’s Nate Cohn and Huffington Post Pollster’s David Rothschild. Long story short: The poll’s results are weighted based on how people said they voted in 2012. That’s probably a mistake, because people often misstate or misremember their vote from previous elections."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Understood
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:03 AM
Oct 2016

I was just responding to that one particular statement from the poster of the OP. I think it is a common misperception that one needs a thousand plus people for a survey to be valid. It was not meant to be directed to this specific poll in particular. Not trying to derail the discussion, just a minor point of fact.

Mchill17

(13 posts)
26. It doesn't have to be meaningless
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:32 PM
Oct 2016

but she implied it was about the sample size, not it's historical results. If it is like the Gallup Daily Tracking poll, they only have 500 respondents daily, but they do a rolling average over the last 3 results with a margin of error of 3%.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
20. Huh, only if the sampling is representative
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:58 AM
Oct 2016

Of the underlying population

If you game your poll to get
White undereducated men from red states, your poll only tells you info on that pop, not the general population

A 400 people poll has a huge margin of error even when done under the most scientific conditions (expensive) which most are not
Around 6%

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
6. What a slimebag he was.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:54 AM
Oct 2016

Great way to deal with his BS

He was a very persisten little shitbag.

Lying his ass off.

Well done Joy. You overcame his crap.

Ace Rothstein

(3,163 posts)
16. She was reading a tweet from one of the Central Park Five.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:10 AM
Oct 2016

It was blurred out on the screen but she read the whole tweet.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
14. Verdugo is obviously worried that his own nasty history may be exposed
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:07 AM
Oct 2016

Sounding like he is very worried that whatever he's been up to is about to explode.

Trying to prepare us to "forgive" him and show "compassion".

Never seen such cringeworthy crap.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
18. Those so called polls are made unprofessionally
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:50 AM
Oct 2016

Biased sample, say white men in West Virginia
Often self selected sample, made in a place or web site to attract a GOP response
Bad questions, leading questions, bad interview technique
Small sample with huge margins of error even if the poll was done correctly

These polls are done to generate talking points, not for info

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
21. I appreciate the correction on my statement about poll size.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:58 AM
Oct 2016

I should have made clearer that she knew details about the validity of the poll outside of it's size.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. I heard about 2/3 of the show.....it was among the best she's ever done, even including
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:05 PM
Oct 2016

Jerry Springer, Trump's progenitor

he was very good, very outraged that he got as far as he did

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
23. Have had enough of this for today
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:17 PM
Oct 2016

I am going to watch Lone Ranger reruns....even the poor portrayal of a Native American is better than seeing this Trump obscenity.

Oooh, Hugh Beaumont (Beaver's father) is on this one.

Tomorrow is my birthday and I am showing my age.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
24. good for you! I went to bed at 6AM this morning, after watching nonstop since 3PM
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:22 PM
Oct 2016

yesterday. took a break to buy a new computer at Costco, so I could post at faster than dialup speed.

back at it for the schadenfreude rush

dunno how long itll last til the msm starts beating back up on Hillary

did you ever hear the Jay Thomas/Clayton Moore story? he used to tell it on Letterman every XMas for years

the radio version is MUCH better....very dirty....involving a suitcase full of sex toys, IIRC

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