2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't understand. They knew he was a sexist racist when they endorsed him. What changed?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)No last straw when he talked about Mexicans, Blacks or Muslims
still_one
(92,199 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Listen to any of his Howard Stern interviews.
That is essentially all he talks about.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Even the hoards who don't read couldn't pretend to be hidden behind the pretense?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or they know he is like this and don't care?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-said-a-lot-of-gross-things-about-women-on-howar?utm_term=.jobLnmRgPG#.hhEEGlpRrJ
Examples can be found at the above link if anyone cares to see them.
I just don't get that having all this on the record already before the Access Hollywood stuff wasn't enough to shame them.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)can keep it up so long, but let's throw in political opportunism. The game was blown big time, Trump was sinking fast and threatening hundreds of offices, and the party needed an ostentatious excuse to turn on their creature. Which Trump's use of the word "pussy" gives them.
Personally, I would have chosen Trump's determined wish to execute 5 innocent teenagers grown to 5 innocent men, but I'm a Democrat.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)How many do overs did they try.....
Guess they know few stats about recidivism.....
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)was that the "pussy tape" put Trump's sleazy, predatory sexism out where everybody could see it for themselves. They could downplay the rumors and allegations but not this.
still_one
(92,199 posts)jalan48
(13,869 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)Big mistake.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)LSK
(36,846 posts)All the other things were court recordings, peoples stories , 3rd person accounts, etc, but this is an actual recording, nobody can deny it now.
still_one
(92,199 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 8, 2016, 05:09 PM - Edit history (1)
during the debates were obvious. Maybe they were watching something else
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)still_one
(92,199 posts)the Megan Kelly comments were way more blatant than this. I would have bet a year's pay he talked the way we hear on the tape to the guys. Plenty of guys talk like that. No, I'm not saying ALL guys. The Kelly comments, not so much.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)I think they thought they could keep things from coming out. The media was doing a great job of killing any negative reports on Trump. Then he decided to diss the media, and things changed. Once the press started actually reporting the "real" Donald Trump things went down hill and yesterday was the beginning of the end for Trump, and the GOP is going down with him.
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Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Blacks, minorities, Jews , disabled, pow, women at large... who cares really
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,854 posts)Just like racist vs. hate crime.
Too many people didn't take Trump's previous statements seriously enough.
Bad Thoughts
(2,524 posts)They will ignore any number of private vices, even ones that are potentially criminal. Once it becomes public, they will abandon ship (especially if it makes them feel icky).
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)The media got pissed about Trump wanting free advertising, and stopped treating g him like a legitimate candidate.
Most of us have known Trump is a creep from the beginning.
procon
(15,805 posts)Republican politicians watch the polls. With more voters turning away from Trump, and the media feeling secure enough to openly criticize him, some of them feel safe in leaving the herd and breaking away from the rest of the weak and timid deplorables.
JHB
(37,160 posts)They knew Donald was deep in the muck, but thought they'd be able to get away with a few flecks and spots that they could mostly brush off, and dry cleaning would take care of the rest.
Suddenly, Donald's monster-truck wheels are spinning wildly, thick, gooey mud is flying their way in large quantities, and not only are their teeeny umbrellas too small to protect them, but they'd put them away.
Il_Coniglietto
(373 posts)There's no way to spin "grab them by the p***y." It's why Trump was forced to spew something resembling (in his mind) an apology.
The racism, xenophobia, antisemitism...those all targeted minority groups that were mostly Democratic voters to begin with.
But this latest stunt affects half the country. If Republicans lose white women by a large number, that's it. Presidency is gone, Senate is gone, House is gone and the Supreme Court will be majority progressive for the next decade.
So the scramble to condemn begins.
still_one
(92,199 posts)Il_Coniglietto
(373 posts)But if we make good gains and focus on strong GOTV in 2018/2020, it's not out of the realm of possibility then.
Still, I think Republicans will likely keep the House until redistricting. But their future as a party is dim.
still_one
(92,199 posts)Il_Coniglietto
(373 posts)Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)brought this out into the open and that's making them uncomfortable.
stone space
(6,498 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)As I've been posting for months, Republicans in power share that racist, bigoted, misogynistic, and rapey views with Don-the-Con and are NO DIFFERENT than him, but unlike him, they were successful at hiding it from the American people overall. Now he's being exposed - and thus they're being exposed - for the ugly Party they are, and they're in panic mode and are trying to distance themselves from him.
But make no mistake - Trump is exactly what they are. Exactly.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)because they don't want to take responsibility for sharing his despicable views.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)and prejudiced. It's as if they're all cloned from the same gene.
Iggo
(47,555 posts)And they were sure of it because they kept telling each other it was true.
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sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)his opinions about women all along. What's different is that in the video he admitted to actually sexually assaulting women. Actions always speak louder than words.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)No plausible deniability for them anymore. Remember that they are also sexist and racist, just a more genteel version.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Just look at Pense's performance during the debate: deny deny deny, lie lie lie. I guess that's what happens when you fill your head with 19th century thinking...
duncang
(1,907 posts)Remember rience priebus threatened cruz and rubio if they didn't endorse dipshit the rnc may not support them. I wonder if rience has privately had a change in that stand. Now that herbert and chaffetz has removed their endorsement I wonder if cruz/rubio will also. chaffetz has a lot of pull as one of the chief gop assholes. rience may be afraid of him.
RobinA
(9,893 posts)THIS is what it takes to shake everybody? This isn't even the most surprising or dumbest thing we've heard him say this week! The prize for that goes to his Central Park 5 comments.
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LAS14
(13,783 posts)It takes explicit sex to get Americans to pay attention. Injustice just doesn't do it.