2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat would happen if a nominee died after the ballot deadline?
Is there no mechanism in place for this contingency?
I can't believe the election would just be forfeited.
flyingfysh
(1,990 posts)The result would be up to them. They could even choose to elect someone who was not a candidate.
Shrek
(3,980 posts)That makes sense, given the way the EC works. Still seems weird to vote for someone who is deceased.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Wednesdays
(17,374 posts)and I just got a really bizarre image in my mind.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Obviously he didn't win anyway but he still got those electors
the electors are not bound to the candidate. They can choose whomever they wish. If a candidate were deceased, they would likely choose someone living.
flyingfysh
(1,990 posts)normally they are pledged to vote for a particular candidate, but if that candidate is no longer alive, they can vote for anyone.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Yes states have laws against faithless electors, but they have never been challenged in court. If they were, I think they would be struck down as unconstitutional. Since electors are the ones actually electing the president, I don't believe the constitution allows states to force them to vote for a particular candidate. It only allows states to decide how the electors are chosen.
My two cents.
Island Blue
(5,816 posts)than Trump at this point.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)repukes are crazy they would do it if they could
Island Blue
(5,816 posts)write-in votes for St. Ronnie.
Grown2Hate
(2,012 posts)RULE NO. 9
Filling Vacancies in Nominations
(a) The Republican National Committee is
hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all
vacancies which may occur by reason of death,
declination, or otherwise of the Republican candidate
for President of the United States or the Republican
candidate for Vice President of the United States, as
nominated by the national convention, or the
Republican National Committee may reconvene the
national convention for the purpose of filling any such
vacancies.
(b) In voting under this rule, the Republican
National Committee members representing any state
shall be entitled to cast the same number of votes as
said state was entitled to cast at the national
convention.
9 of 42
(c) In the event that the members of the
Republican National Committee from any state shall
not be in agreement in the casting of votes hereunder,
the votes of such state shall be divided equally,
including fractional votes, among the members of the
Republican National Committee present or voting by
proxy.
(d) No candidate shall be chosen to fill any
such vacancy except upon receiving a majority of the
votes entitled to be cast in the election.
flyingfysh
(1,990 posts)The vote is for a slate of electors, not the Republican party. There is no scope for RNC rules in the Constitution.
Grown2Hate
(2,012 posts)before the election.
Either way, Rule 9 doesn't apply in this case. The RNC would have to find a way to remove Trump (or hope he quits), and then pick a new nominee at this point (no easy task), and then litigate, state by state, about how to get them on the ballot past the deadline.
It's a clusterfuck, Trump isn't going anywhere, and they're all fucked. I couldn't be happier today.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)A few years ago.
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)Paul Wellstone, he is the reason Al Frankin ran. I think his small plane went down during the re-election campaign.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)in his place. He had about a week before the election to campaign. I think Wellstone's name was still on the ballot but Mondale narrowly lost to Norm Coleman.
Grown2Hate
(2,012 posts)Citizens of Missouri have elected a dead man to the Senate, choosing Governor Mel Carnahan - who was killed three weeks ago in a plane crash - over Republican incumbent John Ashcroft. Carnahan's widow had agreed to take her husband's place.Nov 7, 2000
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)During his antics as AJ, many reminded us that "this was the candidate who lost to a dead guy".
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Replaced Torricelli after the ballot deadline. NJ Supreme Court ruled in his favor, US Supreme Court declined to hear the case. Lautenberg won, saving everything you have left today.
Almost all of the cases named in this sub-thread were contested--by Republicans--in the courts, and they lost. In doing so, I argue, they've paved the way to removing Trump and replacing him with someone else at the eleventh hour.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)In some states they stay on the ballot, in others they are replaced.
In Minnesota in 2002 it was really unfair the way they handled it. Ballots that had already been cast for Wellstone did not count for Mondale, but ballots that had been cast for Coleman against Wellstone did count for him. And I don't think people who had voted for Wellstone were allowed to vote again.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)It's a real mess.