2016 Postmortem

Mass

(27,315 posts) Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:19 PM Oct 2016

Trump's nomination and what ensued is a gigantic media failure.

Well, that the presidential election has arrived to this point is purely and simply media malpractice.

Sure, we have now a tape where Trump is saying these things aloud, but this is nothing new. The Stern tapes were damning, including a clip where Trump saying Stern he could call Ivanka a piece of a*s. What father, entertainment or not, will say that.

But the corporate media (including MSNBC) were so busy earning big money with these rallies that they did not bother doing the basic vetting any presidential candidate goes through. And here we are, with a presidential election that is at the front page of worldwide media for all the bad reasons.

So, yes, it is possible that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party will gain from that, but they could as well have lost, and more importantly, no serious discussion about the future of America has been possible.

Nothing was preventing the media from doing months ago the work that people like Farenholt and a few others have been doing, and why it did not happen should be a serious discussion for the future of Democracy.

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Trump's nomination and what ensued is a gigantic media failure. (Original Post) Mass Oct 2016 OP

Media built him up. LisaL Oct 2016 #1

Amen... In Germany the 'new media' was owned by mostly one person .... Here that's not the case uponit7771 Oct 2016 #2

Interesting afternoon here on the board. Wellstone ruled Oct 2016 #3

Probably determining the be$t cour$e of action Wednesdays Oct 2016 #4

Sure smells that way. Wellstone ruled Oct 2016 #7

Vetting should have occured well before the primaries were over by the other candidates and RNC. Old and In the Way Oct 2016 #5

True, but the media are responsible too. Mass Oct 2016 #6

Media should be objective reporters of facts Old and In the Way Oct 2016 #9

Chair of CBS said "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS." enough Oct 2016 #8

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

1. Media built him up.

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:20 PM

Oct 2016

This particular tape was there at NBC all alone.

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)

2. Amen... In Germany the 'new media' was owned by mostly one person .... Here that's not the case

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:26 PM

Oct 2016

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

3. Interesting afternoon here on the board.

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:33 PM

Oct 2016

Seems the so called Media is in hiding,probably comparing notes as to what direction or lack there of to pursue .

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)

4. Probably determining the be$t cour$e of action

Reply to Wellstone ruled (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:45 PM

Oct 2016

for the American public.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

7. Sure smells that way.

Reply to Wednesdays (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:53 PM

Oct 2016

But,Comcast knows best. Yah right.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)

5. Vetting should have occured well before the primaries were over by the other candidates and RNC.

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:49 PM

Oct 2016

At the end of the day, they were so anxious to win the WH and pick the SCOTUS justices, that they shitcanned their family values schtick and rented their Party to him. Predictably, he has trashed the RNC brand and, hopefully, spend the next decade devolving into a completely ineffectual collection of fingerpointers.

Mass

(27,315 posts)

6. True, but the media are responsible too.

Reply to Old and In the Way (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:50 PM

Oct 2016

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)

9. Media should be objective reporters of facts

Reply to Mass (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 05:16 PM

Oct 2016

That the RNC and 15 other primary candidates were unable to vet their candidate/oponent is far more illuminating of the current Republican mind. Can't run your Party? Hand you over the keys to the WH to run this country? Are you nuts, GOP?

enough

(13,259 posts)

8. Chair of CBS said "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS."

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:54 PM

Oct 2016

From February 2016:

Les Moonves: Trump's run is 'damn good for CBS'
By ELIZA COLLINS 02/29/16 06:15 PM EST

Donald Trump’s candidacy might not be making America great, CBS Chairman Les Moonves said Monday, but it’s great for his company.

"It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS," Moonves said at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media & Telecom Conference in San Francisco, according to The Hollywood Reporter — perfectly distilling what media critics have long suspected was motivating the round-the-clock coverage of Trump's presidential bid.

"Most of the ads are not about issues. They're sort of like the debates," Moonves said, noting, "here's a lot of money in the marketplace."

The 2016 campaign is a "circus," he remarked, but "Donald's place in this election is a good thing."
"Man, who would have expected the ride we're all having right now? ... The money's rolling in and this is fun," Moonves went on. "I've never seen anything like this, and this going to be a very good year for us. Sorry. It's a terrible thing to say. But, bring it on, Donald. Keep going.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/les-moonves-trump-cbs-220001#ixzz4MW4qAfZf

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