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WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 08:34 AM Oct 2016

Is The Republican Party Finished?

Is The Republican Party as we know it gone forever?

I'm not so sure. Every establishment Republican that abandons Trump is a step towards returning to a more traditional party. Is it too late?

If they succeed in returning to a more traditional party, will they change some of their platform...particularly in the areas of social policy? Or will they embrace a hyper-Conservatism based on the demands of their electorate?

This is why we need to have Trump stay in the race as long as possible.

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Is The Republican Party Finished? (Original Post) WiffenPoof Oct 2016 OP
Shit happens. This did. Watch them rally around Pence now, the last surviving leader of Coyotl Oct 2016 #1
I'd love to hear you... WiffenPoof Oct 2016 #3
No get the red out Oct 2016 #2
So if racism needs a home... WiffenPoof Oct 2016 #4
Racism is just part of their Othering. They think politics is warfare, not a democratic exercise. Coyotl Oct 2016 #5
At this point "traditional" is hyper conservative, the Cruz/Pence model. Silent3 Oct 2016 #6
Wow... Very insightful. WiffenPoof Oct 2016 #7
Nope NHDEMFORLIFE Oct 2016 #8
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
1. Shit happens. This did. Watch them rally around Pence now, the last surviving leader of
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 08:38 AM
Oct 2016

the Spanish Inquisition.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
2. No
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 08:40 AM
Oct 2016

Racism, xenophobia, homophobia, and misogyny are still alive and well, so the Republican Party will be ready to roll with a competitive candidate in 4 years. But it has changed a lot because they have coddled and enabled the lowest common denominator for so long. They shouldn't be shocked.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. Racism is just part of their Othering. They think politics is warfare, not a democratic exercise.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 09:05 AM
Oct 2016

Silent3

(15,223 posts)
6. At this point "traditional" is hyper conservative, the Cruz/Pence model.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 09:15 AM
Oct 2016

Last edited Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:24 AM - Edit history (2)

If the Republican voter base hadn't been offered Trump to appeal to their even baser instincts, that's the kind of Republican nominee we would have gotten this year. Even the so-called "moderates", like Romney supposedly was in the last election, are extremists.

Given the horrid smear campaign that's been over twenty years in the making against Hillary Clinton, she'd have had an even tougher fight against a Republican like Cruz or Pence, regardless of how far out of whack extreme conservatism is, on an issue-by-issue basis, with the American electorate. The American public unfortunately has an amazing ability to tune out and normalize how extreme the Republican party has become.

Trump will probably fracture the Republican party in the short term, but I don't think they have to ability the re-coalesce around anything else besides hyper-conservatism. Despite the wreck this presidential election is causing the Republican party for the moment, and the demographic changes that are against them in the long term, you can't deny how successful the hyper conservative formula has been for Republicans for keeping control of Congress, governorships, and state legislatures all around the country.

I think hyper-conservatism will have to suffer several years of electoral defeat before a more sane and moderate Republican party emerges.

I do consider it possible, though only remotely, that the current stresses will break the Republican party into two distinct parties, of which one or neither will inherit the "Republican" label. In the latter case, the Republican party per se will have died. But the dust will settle eventually to form an opposition party to the Democrats, whatever that party is called, and it will still take some time and a string of defeats for there to be much hope that it will be a moderate version of conservatism.

NHDEMFORLIFE

(489 posts)
8. Nope
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:44 AM
Oct 2016

After Nixon resigned I thought it might go the way of the Whigs.
Rats are tough little rodents. They seem to survive just about anything.

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