2016 Postmortem

wcast

(595 posts) Sun Oct 9, 2016, 09:50 AM Oct 2016

Karl Rove just said something on Fox that I actually agree with.

Except he said it about the voters and I think it about the Repub politicians. Rove said "they", the voters, knew this stuff about Trump already. I say the same is true about Pence, McCain, etc. They knew who Trump was and what he was about. They took a gamble that they could ride this out and Trump might actually win.

The faux outrage is galling. I know some think this sets Pence up for 2020, but I don't see it. Not only did he know, and carry Trump's water during the vice-presidential debate, he also supported many of the crazy policies the party as a whole are championing. Pence is just a cleaned up version of Trump wrapped in both the Bible and the flag.

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Karl Rove just said something on Fox that I actually agree with. (Original Post) wcast Oct 2016 OP

Do they really think that the old Sargent Schultz defense will still work procon Oct 2016 #1

Of course all this stuff about him is well known. LisaL Oct 2016 #2

That actually is why Pence is benefitting from this Cosmocat Oct 2016 #3

I agree PatSeg Oct 2016 #4

I agree。 This is another example that the GOP cannot govern。 UCmeNdc Oct 2016 #5

I just listened to Charlie Dent, who is from my state. wcast Oct 2016 #6

I disagree mythology Oct 2016 #7

procon

(15,805 posts)

1. Do they really think that the old Sargent Schultz defense will still work

Reply to wcast (Original post)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:03 AM

Oct 2016

Republican politicians want to act like innocent Pollyannas fresh from Sunnybrook Farm, but if they want to pretend they are that stupid the they aren't fit for public office on so many levels.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

2. Of course all this stuff about him is well known.

Reply to wcast (Original post)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:05 AM

Oct 2016

All the things he said and done would have stopped other campaigns a long time ago. I guess something is finally sticking.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)

3. That actually is why Pence is benefitting from this

Reply to wcast (Original post)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:10 AM

Oct 2016

Trump's only sin for republican is being such a borrishly horrible person.

Pence is the prototype for them, someone who is 101 percent on board with their insanity, but has a very tightly wound veneer to him and is coy about talking around it all.

Watching even the Rs who don't like Trump have orgasms talking about Pence after the VP debate says it all.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)

4. I agree

Reply to wcast (Original post)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:16 AM

Oct 2016

It was no secret what a vulgar nasty man Trump was and is. The fact that so few would refuse to support Trump reveals that most republican politicians will say or do anything to win. Evidently there is no line that they will not cross.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)

5. I agree。 This is another example that the GOP cannot govern。

Reply to wcast (Original post)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:19 AM

Oct 2016

This is exactly why the US has so many problems。 The GOP cannot govern。 The GOP's bad decisions are hurting eveyone。 There is no justifiable reason for the backlog of judges。 Gerrymandering is hurting the entire country。 Does the GOP care？ Not as long as they remain in control who cares if it is bad decisions are made。

Donald Trump is incompetent。 The GOP leaders knew this。 They thought they could control him and use Trump to do their bidding。 Never mind the other damage a Donald Trump as President might do。

Look at the Damage George W。 Bush did。 Does the GOP own up to it？ No！

The GOP recently overturned President Obama's veto to not allow US citizen's to sue Saudi Arabia。 Now that they see the result of their bad decision， other countries citizen's can now sue the United States for its actions， the GOP leaders blame everybody but themselves for their poor decision。

On and on it goes， but nobody ever says hey GOP your wrong。

wcast

(595 posts)

6. I just listened to Charlie Dent, who is from my state.

Reply to wcast (Original post)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:31 AM

Oct 2016

He ran a laundry list of why Trump should step down, but it was all things repubs had accepted and defended. Dent brought up Trumps attack on McCain's, but McCain endorsed Trump afterward, as did Cruz. We democrats need to hang this on all of their necks.

mythology

(9,527 posts)

7. I disagree

Reply to wcast (Original post)

Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:37 AM

Oct 2016

Yes he's said a number of racist, misogynist, and bigoted things. But bragging about committing sexual assault goes past that. Everything up to this has been words, or at worst encouraging other people to be violent. This is him saying that he's overtly committed sexual assault.

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