2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI admit that as a gay man who isn't very athletic I can't hold myself as an expert on locker rooms
but is this what really is talked about in them? I mean gay bars aren't exactly monistaries but even there we don't talk about forcing ourselves upon men. Is this really a thing?
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)starting in middle school.
For 12 year olds... you might hear stuff like what Donald said. Maybe.
But from 15 on... I have never heard of this sort of conversation. Ever. And certainly not from a 59 year old man.
dsc
(52,162 posts)and got called the usual names a person who people think is gay gets called but this notion of assault women being bragged about is a bridge too far.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Somewhat athletic and 50.
Was in a fraternity. I never heard anything like that.
In our fraternity days we had a rule that if a girl got passed out drunk she was not allowed to be taken into a bedroom. Some if the men(boys really) stayed with her till we called someone to take her home. I realize not all are like that, but even in my young conservative years I would not stand for sex abuse. Or those who found it funny.
It is really a mind boggling statement.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)Mike: Mr Kittredge, it may interest you to know that our so-called affair consisted of exactly two kisses and one rather late swim both of which I thoroughly enjoyed and the memory of which I wouldn't part with for anything. After which I returned here, carried her to her room, deposited her on her bed and promptly returned here which you will no doubt remember.
George Kittredge: That's all?
Mike: That's all.
Tracy: Why? Was I so cold? So forbidding?
Mike: Not at all. On the contrary but you were somewhat the worse or the better for the wine and there are rules about such things.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)Maeve
(42,282 posts)A musical version of Philladelphia Story set in Newport with Frank Sinatra in Jimmy Stewart's role (Bing Crosby as the ex-husband and music by Louis Armstrong and band)
yardwork
(61,650 posts)qazplm
(3,626 posts)don't let those idiots normalize this BS.
MOST men are not rapists or sexual assaulters. They don't condone it, or joke about it, or think it's funny.
TXCritter
(344 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Guys could be somewhat crude, but not to that degree. Even in high school, any girl you mentioned was likely to be some other guy's girlfriend. It simply wasn't done.
nolabear
(41,986 posts)We women only have men's words for what you say about us when we aren't there. Those comments have done real harm to the trust between us. Y'all need to protect one another from this garbage too!
LiberalFighter
(50,946 posts)I was just an equipment manager but pretty sure their focus was the specific sport. Never heard any such talk on bus rides, van rides, or on a rec vehicle to events either.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)He has a sick sexual deal with his own daughter. He is a nasty thing.
Cakes488
(874 posts)have taken part in them but the difference is there is no hints of assault ...there is no way I would let that go. For me using dirty words or crude talk is not the problem...it's him using his position of power to just "take" and intimidate.
There is a big difference (to me) that if someone says "I was slamming that pu$$Y" OK that is just crude and
"I grabbed and took that pu$$y" big big difference in my mind.
And if I offend anyone I'll just say in now ...I applegize
Was a jock in high school and college, played varsity sports in each. Never heard anything remotely this graphic. Not really even close. And that was among 16-22 year olds. Certainly in adult life (and I am 50+) nothing even remotely like this. Most men do not even talk about this general subject with other men. They tend to talk about sports, politics, cars, investments, real estate, wine, etc.
LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#00009d]But do remember people who talked that way back in junior and high school. I never got along with those type of people and kept a distance.[/font]
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Rape is a real crisis on this planet, it is sad that it took Trump for people to realize that.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Rude things about women's bodies and boasting about one's encounters, yes. Many of the encounters were imagined too.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)two big loud sexist assholes. Early 20s, bragging about the women that they had sex with, and then dumped.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)I assure you that bragging about sexual assault was NEVER a topic of conversation. Frank discussion might be had about women we were with or wanted to be with, and what...ahem..."attributes" they had that we found particularly enticing, but it was never in a less than appreciative (and absolutely never violent) way.
I have known a few assclowns in my long years that talked like Trump. My associates and I always shunned these freaks and let them know how fucked up that is. And then we warned every woman in earshot to stay far, far away from them.