Trump threw him under the bus tonight.

but can't remember which race. There was a discussion about it on TV but I didn't catch the VP who bailed.

McGovern's veep left the ticket

N/T

n/t

But as I recall, it wasn't because Eagleton quit.

But, it still would fit as an example since he was off the ticket
I just can't find the date when he was officially off the ticket

I know it was a fairly difficult process involving discussions with psychiatrists, including his own who couldn't swear that should Eagleton became president for some reason, that his depression wouldn't return

Is that true?

Aren't most of the ballots set?

People are already voting.

He told Brian Williams that if Pence left the ticket, they can replace both of the candidates on the R ticket.

I could not believe what I was hearing. This was before the debate.

Someone help me out, I must have heard it wrong.

Eagleton withdrew
Shriver became the new veep nominee

Would not blame him as t'rump threw pence under the bus tonight...again!

According to their own bylaws or something, they'd get to nominate the replacement, NOT Donald.

Will wait for confirmation tomorrow.

Is pence really quitting seriously ??

I couldn't find them on twitter.

But then again, this campaign has been full of them.

I kinda doubt it now, having watched the debate. Trump did well enough that it wasn't another complete fiasco. More sniffing, though...

If Pence was thinking of leaving, I'd guess he's kinda settled down now - and perhaps believes he can stick it out to the end. If he was walking toward the door, he slowed up a little.

And that's GOOD! It will just mean more Trump got on him and while he may have "positioned" himself on the surface. But if their campaign really tanks, a loss like that WILL leave a mark. Plus, he'll have been the guy who knew it was going to hell and just rode it on downward. GOPer Ben Ginsberg just said the same kind of thing, in a Chris Matthews interview.

The creeper & the goul

That there are rumors swirling.

and asked for confirmation. Rumors are flying in the news rooms that he's asked to leave the ticket. No confirmation yet.

Stated to me for a fact. I only tell it as I got it. I am willing to believe it. I can believe anything. - Mark Twain ...

I've spent too much time with the Republican Party Rules lately. Take a look yourself at Rules 8 and 9 if you doubt me:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod-static-ngop-pbl/docs/Rules_of_the_Republican+Party_FINAL_S14090314.pdf

If Pence declines the nomination now, that more or less automatically triggers an emergency meeting of the RNC to replace him, as soon as this weekend if he ditches on Monday. There doesn't need to be another convention.

At that meeting, it will certainly be noted that the Presidential candidate can also be replaced, by reason of death, declination, or otherwise--an enormous loophole which allows them to remove a candidate for any reason at all, including just for being an asshole.

It's true that the deadline for getting a name on the ballot has passed in most or all states, but we're voting for electors, not the President, so it's not as important as it sounds. Furthermore, several states have changed the name on a ballot when one candidate is replaced with another, after the deadline.

Oh, yes, it would be a legal nightmare, all right, but America is not lacking for litigious political lawyers.

And it's all up to one guy, Mike Pence, who isn't likely to get this shot twice. If he does decline, the RNC meeting has to happen, within 30 days if I read it right.

Pence stays on board and goes down with Titanic or he jumps and enters 2020 as a quitter?

Neither option is attractive to any politician, but Pence had an opportunity to show judgement and temperament when Trump asked him to be VP. Pence failed the test on both counts at that time.

He doesn't strike me as, you know, smart. Or informed. But he's ambitious, and he's a Republican politician, which means he's plotting, treacherous, and entirely self-interested.

Leaving the ticket is the one way he can bounce himself to the top of the ticket this year, and maybe better position himself for 2020. When he gets his ass beat he can always blame the logistical and administrative problems he himself would automatically cause.

So today he's saying he's sticking with the program, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?

Yes, the ec decides the election and we indirectly vote for ec reps, but we don't vote directly for an ec elector. We vote directly for a candidate, and the candidate with the most votes in a state gets awarded ev's. If Trump is on a ballot, and wins the popular vote in that state, the electors are bound to him, not the party.

The new nominees name has to be on the ballot (or registered as a write in) and that name has to win the popular vote.

It is very high and very soft shit pile, and they aren't getting to the other side before the election.

Changing pence is doable, but not Trump.

If he isn't dropping out now, it's never.

Mike Pence? @mike_pence
Congrats to my running mate @realDonaldTrump on a big debate win! Proud to stand with you as we #MAGA

https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_pence

This was unsubstantiated rumor.

That was the campaign tweeting under his username. They do it frequently so it could just be a campaign tweet.

I can't speak to it either way, obviously.

during the debate.

I think Pence would rather ride the bus than be a speed bump.

displayed a tweet from Pence about 10 minutes ago congratulating Trump for a good debate and win.

And if Pence says the rumors are "Nonsense," well, after the VP debate, we know that is Pense-speak for "absolutely true."

That if Pence left the ticket, the Republicans can replace both members of the ticket. And the way they were talking, it sounded like they might actually be considering it. Surely I heard it wrong.

I think it might be interesting to find that video. It was just about 20 minutes before the debate. His name was Ginsberg.

And I seriously couldn't believe what I was hearing...but the guy sounded dead sure, and I got the feeling that he knew exactly what he was talking about. And I got the feeling he had recently "boned up" on the subject.

I was kind of in shock at what he was saying. I must have heard wrong.

Manson said, "I refuse to be associated with that psychopathic creep."

He's being put back in the same box he put Melania in after the convention. Trump doesn't need any second bananas messing up his act.

Did he throw hom under the bus? I was at work darn it

When he was asked by Kaine.

Thank you

Basically, Donnie follows Putin and Assad against Isis while Pence is a little more traditional, shall we say. Trump said he hasn't talked to Pence, and Pence's public appearances seem to be limited. Seems like he's being minimized.

... Peace Out!

rather than a leader.

Pence tweeted something tonight about how Trump 'won' the debate.

Besides, who really cares? They'd just put up another right wing doofus.

at the end of the day despite the media spin, as his job was to barrage Trump with attacks and force Pence to defend it, which he failed to do, mostly lied and shrugged his shoulders which only infuriated Trump.

Kaine should've interrupted less and aimed for a more polished presentation, but the overall strategy was correct.