2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

(146,317 posts) Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:57 AM Oct 2016

Martha Raddatz was visibly pissed off at Trump.

The more Trump interrupted and loomed around behind Clinton, the sharper the moderator's cautionary statement became. It was clear to me that she quickly had had enough of Trump's bullying behavior and jumped in to quell the bully.

I wonder if she has experienced bullying by men in her life and has become tired to death of it.

I was proud of her, frankly. She actually tried to "moderate" the debate.

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Martha Raddatz was visibly pissed off at Trump. (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2016 OP

I am a guy, but I would not be surprised if Ms. Raddatz has been the recipient of misogyny, still_one Oct 2016 #1

As a woman, I can tell you there's a nearly 100 spooky3 Oct 2016 #2

I think she and Anderson decided before the town hall spooky3 Oct 2016 #3

But the problem with the two of them early on BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #8

I agree but they were also responding to qs that spooky3 Oct 2016 #10

"I wonder if she has experienced bullying by men in her life" BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #4

Sadly, I'm afraid you're right. MineralMan Oct 2016 #7

Her voice shook several times. Daemonaquila Oct 2016 #5

She was furious, clearly, by the end of the debate. MineralMan Oct 2016 #9

She did very well mcar Oct 2016 #6

No one likes it when someone blasts obvious lies in their face Achilleaze Oct 2016 #11

still_one

(92,207 posts)

1. I am a guy, but I would not be surprised if Ms. Raddatz has been the recipient of misogyny,

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:05 AM

Oct 2016

and discrimination in her line of work. As the Roger Ailes episode was just the tip of the iceberg, the comments by the media when characterizing Hillary as "shrill, angry, and not pleasant", only highlights the double standard

spooky3

(34,456 posts)

2. As a woman, I can tell you there's a nearly 100

Reply to still_one (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:17 AM

Oct 2016

Percent certainty that anyone her age who has worked outside the home most of her life has experienced MANY instances of it.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)

3. I think she and Anderson decided before the town hall

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:18 AM

Oct 2016

That they were going to retain full control and act clearly like authority figures. That is the only way to keep an authoritarian in check.

BumRushDaShow

(129,057 posts)

8. But the problem with the two of them early on

Reply to spooky3 (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:29 AM

Oct 2016

was that they fed into the "ratings stunt" part of the debate at the beginning, which resulted in them trying to hurriedly get through the rest of the selected audience questions at the very end. The first half hour only had 2 audience and 1 facebook question covered.

I.e., THEY both prolonged cage match part of t by continuing follow-on after follow-on until it consumed almost the entire first hour.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)

10. I agree but they were also responding to qs that

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:32 AM

Oct 2016

People sent them. They pretty much had to start with it and get it out of the way.

BumRushDaShow

(129,057 posts)

4. "I wonder if she has experienced bullying by men in her life"

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:23 AM

Oct 2016

I would proffer to say that any and every woman in a workforce that includes men - particularly if they have been there for some time and probably moreso in the occupation that she is in, HAVE been bullied or experienced some sort of dismissive, back-handed, or outright intimidating behavior from them - even if they are not their bosses. It is part of the generational socialization of the male in this society.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)

7. Sadly, I'm afraid you're right.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:29 AM

Oct 2016

More's the pity.

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)

5. Her voice shook several times.

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:25 AM

Oct 2016

She was furious. No need to ask what may have happened in her past when noticing it. If you're not furious this election cycle, you're not paying attention.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)

9. She was furious, clearly, by the end of the debate.

Reply to Daemonaquila (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:30 AM

Oct 2016

Despite their attempts to keep it under control, Trump worked equally hard to take over. An impossible job is what they had.

mcar

(42,334 posts)

6. She did very well

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:27 AM

Oct 2016

The townhall format was a bust,mostly because of the early questions that had to be asked. But she was very good.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)

11. No one likes it when someone blasts obvious lies in their face

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:42 AM

Oct 2016

...while some of Trump's lies were obscure, most of them were bald and brazenly gross.

I won't stand for that, and apparently neither will M. Raddatz.

On the other hand, the Republicans just lap the lies up with dull stare-into-space faces.

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