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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOnce Kellyanne is unleashed, can Boris be far behind?
On MSNBC now. Spinning as usual.
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Once Kellyanne is unleashed, can Boris be far behind? (Original Post)
spiderpig
Oct 2016
OP
lying his ass off, too, about the poor victims, and how hillary led the charge to ruin their lives.
Gabi Hayes
Oct 2016
#6
I can't watch either of them anymore. I fail to see how she is the effective spokesperson that
yellowcanine
Oct 2016
#4
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)1. There will be the inevitable book to write about the disaster of the campaign
and the blame is on the candidate... just like the Palin flop.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)2. Gish galloping all over the place.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)5. +1 nt
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)6. lying his ass off, too, about the poor victims, and how hillary led the charge to ruin their lives.
the simp of a host just sat there, mostly
not a WORD about how ken starr used NONE of their stories, while imprisoning Susan MacDougal and trying Julie Hiatt Steele for refusing to LIE.
what incompetence
JHS:
Julie Hiatt Steele, hounded and prosecuted by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr during the Clinton impeachment campaign of 1998-99, is facing severe financial and personal difficulties arising from Starr's vendetta against her.
Steele hasn't worked since February 1998, when she submitted an affidavit in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case undermining the credibility of Kathleen Willey, a one-time Clinton supporter who achieved notoriety by going on the Sixty Minutes television program in March 1998 and accusing Clinton of making unwanted sexual advances.
Steele lost her employment when the affidavit and her refusal to go along with Willey's version of events became public knowledge. Subsequently she became the target of an extraordinary campaign of prosecutorial terror and intimidation by Starr's office.
Steele was dragged before two grand juries. Her daughter and brother, as well as a former lawyer and accountant, were also interrogated. She was forced to turn over tax and bank records, credit reports and telephone records to Starr's investigators. Most despicably, the Office of the Independent Counsel threatened to move against Steele's parental rights, making public the fact that it was looking into the procedureswhich were, in fact, entirely legalby which she had adopted her son in Romania.
Ultimately, in January 1999, Starr indicted Steele on three counts of obstructing justice and one charge of making false statements. She faced the possibility of 35 years in jail and a one million dollar fine. Starr's office pursued its legally baseless and vindictive case against Steele to trial in May 1999. The case ended in a hung jury and mistrial, a humiliating defeat for Starr. His office decided not to pursue a retrial.
Steele hasn't worked since February 1998, when she submitted an affidavit in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case undermining the credibility of Kathleen Willey, a one-time Clinton supporter who achieved notoriety by going on the Sixty Minutes television program in March 1998 and accusing Clinton of making unwanted sexual advances.
Steele lost her employment when the affidavit and her refusal to go along with Willey's version of events became public knowledge. Subsequently she became the target of an extraordinary campaign of prosecutorial terror and intimidation by Starr's office.
Steele was dragged before two grand juries. Her daughter and brother, as well as a former lawyer and accountant, were also interrogated. She was forced to turn over tax and bank records, credit reports and telephone records to Starr's investigators. Most despicably, the Office of the Independent Counsel threatened to move against Steele's parental rights, making public the fact that it was looking into the procedureswhich were, in fact, entirely legalby which she had adopted her son in Romania.
Ultimately, in January 1999, Starr indicted Steele on three counts of obstructing justice and one charge of making false statements. She faced the possibility of 35 years in jail and a one million dollar fine. Starr's office pursued its legally baseless and vindictive case against Steele to trial in May 1999. The case ended in a hung jury and mistrial, a humiliating defeat for Starr. His office decided not to pursue a retrial.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)3. I mute or flip the channel
they say nothing anybody wants to hear.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)4. I can't watch either of them anymore. I fail to see how she is the effective spokesperson that
Chris Matthews and Dan Rather seem to think she is. And he is a loudmouthed idiot.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)7. in a week or so, you can really start enjoying their predicaments
the trump train is going right off the rails
I'm starting to think that it's just about written in stone:
OVER