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DonViejo

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Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:22 PM Oct 2016

Powerful Evangelical Women Split From Male Church Leaders to Slam Trump

Among conservative evangelicals, women like Beth Moore are splitting from men and asking of them: ‘When will you believe me and stand up for me?’

JOSHUA DUBOIS

10.10.16 1:49 PM ET

Beth Moore doesn’t spend much time on politics. The enormously popular evangelist—her sermons and conferences sell out arenas and printed bible studies are perennial bestsellers—is more likely to be found helping women understand the life of the Apostle Paul or tweeting about her husband, new granddaughter and two adorable dogs. But something changed for Moore after Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for president of the United States, was caught on tape bragging about his ability to sexual assault women. When Trump said, “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything,” Moore had had enough.

“I’m one among many women sexually abused, misused, stared down, heckled, talked naughty to. Like we liked it. We didn’t. We’re tired of it,” Moore said. She also had a word about evangelical leaders still supporting Trump: “Try to absorb how acceptable the disesteem and objectifying of women has been when some Christian leaders don’t think it’s that big a deal.”

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“When Christian women like Beth Moore choose to publicly speak about their own experience with sexual assault, it signals to me that they do not feel heard or understood by fellow Christian leaders who continue to support Trump,” Katelyn Beaty told me. Beaty, until recently the print managing editor of Christianity Today, the country’s largest evangelical Christian publication, is the author of A Woman’s Place: A Christian Vision for Your Calling in the Office, the Home, and the World. “Moore and others are saying to their fellow leaders, the one-in-six statistic”—of women who have experienced sexual assault—“includes me. When will you believe me and stand up for me?”

Beth Moore wasn’t alone in her condemnation of Trump. Her comments sent ripples around the evangelical world and were seconded by Christian mega-speaker and author Christine Caine. Sara Groves, the Dove Award-Nominated Christian artist, told me, “Someone like Beth can go a long way in helping Evangelicals recognize these major blind spots.” Groves herself was impacted by Trump’s remarks. “When I first heard the tape, I was shocked, and a bit surprised at how deeply it hit me,” she said. “I immediately thought of my own experiences, and of friends who have experienced much worse.”

Dr. Russell Moore—head of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission and a leading conservative Christian voice against Trump—says he is hearing privately from women like Groves and Moore all the time.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/10/beth-moore-the-christian-women-speaking-out-about-trump-s-bad-news.html

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Powerful Evangelical Women Split From Male Church Leaders to Slam Trump (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
This is so important, not just for the election, but for the coming changes in our enough Oct 2016 #1
+ 1,000. Achilleaze Oct 2016 #2
How I have seen it. Doreen Oct 2016 #3

enough

(13,262 posts)
1. This is so important, not just for the election, but for the coming changes in our
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:34 PM
Oct 2016

society now that this glacier of silence is being broken.

I'm a 72 year old woman and incredibly cynical about politics and the possibility of change, but I think what's happening right now with this issue is unprecedented. We may already be seeing a real shift brought about by having a woman running for President, and appearing at this point to be winning. And a woman who is relentlessly strong on this issue, not shying away from it.

Of course there will be a backlash. Trump's entire campaign is essentially a great big racist, sexist backlash. But changes like this in the OP are an amazingly positive sign.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
3. How I have seen it.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:48 PM
Oct 2016

I live in a small town were fundamentalists are in large numbers. In the fundamentalist lifestyles women are second class. The mans word is the only word. Fundamentalist women MUST agree with their man. Some will only vote what their man votes and some are not allowed to vote. These women have been mostly raised from birth in this setting and to them it is just natural to accept only thinking like the man they are with. There is also the factor for those who are just abused badly enough to look down and not express their own feelings.

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