2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI come from a Republican family...
Every election I have ideological disagreements with them. This election started out much the same. They said that they couldn't support Hillary (or any Democrat), but they absolutely couldn't vote for Trump. So, the consensus was that they would vote for Gary Johnson.
A couple of weeks ago, they all changed their tune and said that Hillary was the only option, that voting for Johnson was throwing away your vote, and that they couldn't let Trump win.
My mother is almost 70, and she has NEVER voted for a Democrat in her entire life. I truly believe that the decent Republicans will do the same. Some people genuinely believe in the Republican ideology, but they realize that Trump in no way embodies those ideals. He is nothing but a sleezy charlatan. When it comes dow to it, only the zealots are going to back him.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)Even if they pretend they will vote Trump.
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)'Course, they'll lie to their husbands about it but if I married an asshole, so would I.
tblue37
(65,489 posts)because he and his family were all Republicans.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Republican community. He always actually voted Democrat. My mom (Scandinavian family background) was an early-days working mom and an unabashed Democrat. She therefore got to welcome JFK and was on stage with him when he came through while barnstorming the country. I'm thinking that may have been the last time so many average voters actually saw a presidential candidate in person. All my female high school classmates wanted to be "Kennedy girls," with the hats and sashes, (I was recruiting), even though their parents were definitely voting for Nixon.
Raster
(20,998 posts)"Yes dear, I voted for tRump." <winkwink>
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Realistically, I doubt they'd really waste their votes. I also doubt that most knowledgeable Republicans really believe that Hillary is the devil, or wouldn't really be OK for the "system" as they see it.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)I don't know if they'll vote for Clinton (and I didn't push it), but they seem adamant about hating Trump.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)And said friend absolutely refuses to vote for either Clinton or Trump, saying "they're both equally awful" (which is of course patently absurd, but considering that this is California...I decided not to press the issue). In fact, this friend very well might not even vote at all.
I told my friend recently that of the few Trump supporters I had actually met, every single one of them was considerably more motivated to vote against Clinton than they were to vote for Trump. My friend's response: "Well yeah, because he's a piece of shit."
Di I mention this friend is a woman?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)He's so thin skinned and cowardly it wouldn't take much for him to ban all guns.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)but I wouldn't call it a Republican family or a Democratic family. They're my family, politics be damned I love all of them more than anything. But for the record, none of like tRump, but they wont be voting Hillary either.
LeftInTX
(25,558 posts)mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)We have life long Republican relatives voting for Hillary. I see my husband's cousin liking posts from Hillary's page. Never thought I'd see the day. What a year. Damn, I hope the down ticket Dems win big. We need the Senate and the House.
SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)I was at a statewide conference this week. My profession is very Republican, members vote 90%+ GOP. A lot of discussion about the election, and I think the vote this year may be 50-50. One guy says he has never voted for a Dem for President and sure won't this time, so he is writing in the last "good" Republican President who still had a term left: George H W Bush.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)notawinger
(79 posts)Every republican in my family will vote trump
Spew
(17 posts)"Some people genuinely believe in the Republican ideology, but they realize that Trump in no way embodies those ideals."
Not sure I agree with this completely. Sure, there are surface differences, but Democrats seem to be taking the tack of splitting Trump off from the GOP as if he is some kind of anomaly rather than the direct consequence of GOP/conservative media policies of the past decades. Trump is the very embodiment of today's GOP, willing to say out loud what others would only imply.
I'd like to see a concentrated effort to tie the entire GOP to Trump rather than to write him off as some kind of one-off that excuses the rest of the party.
arthritisR_US
(7,299 posts)whole damn lot of the GOP that let him be picked and so should be tied to him, all the way down the ticket!
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)They hold no standards or ideals.
All they have is a bald lust for power and they'll sell their mothers, or your mother if that will help them achieve it.
Trump proves this.
iamateacher
(1,089 posts)Is voting for Hillary. And she's thrilled to be voting for a woman!
LeftRant
(524 posts)I'm pretty sure my dad is a Trumpty (mom probl, too), but I haven't spoken to them in years.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)Thrilled HRC is going to win.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Bush Family also voting for Hillary, not because Jeb dropped of the race but they saw Trump as unfit. They are voting for the good of the country rather than for the RNC nominee.
wncHillsupport
(112 posts)posted a youtube from July on
"To The Never Trumper- A Biblical Case For Trump"
It is basically about forgiveness and redemption. Not sure if the youtuber still feels the same way!
I don't talk politics with my one brother and his kids as he trained them all to be right wingers.
Hopeless. Although my brother did admit he would just vote for the "least worst" so I teased him that he would be voting along with me then for the first time ever if he meant that!
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Both of those sisters AND their husbands said they were voting for Hillary after the first debate.