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applegrove

(118,660 posts)
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:12 PM Oct 2016

Donald Trump as a “gaslighter”: What we must learn from his manipulative non-apology

Donald Trump as a “gaslighter”: What we must learn from his manipulative non-apology

by Paul Rosenberg at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/16/donald-trump-as-a-gaslighter-what-we-must-learn-from-his-manipulative-non-apology/

"SNIP...............


“Trump’s statement is an eerie replica of psychological manipulations made by abusers after episodes of abuse,” McElrath began. “Let’s break it down.” That’s precisely what she did in 15 numbered tweets. McElrath’s clinical dissection was the only analysis I saw that left me, at the end, feeling completely free of all Trump’s slimy tendrils, with a perfectly clear understanding of everything he’s tried to do. She began by translating Trump’s statement “I’m not perfect” into what we might call its psychological meaning: Your expectations I behave like a human being are unreasonable. McElrath’s tweets continued:

2. “I’ve never pretended to be someone I’m not” = you fell in love with me so it’s your fault

3. “this more than decade old video” = it was a long time ago, why the fuss? you’re so unreasonable.

4. “these words do not reflect who I am” = the reality you just experienced didn’t actually happen (gaslighting)

5. “I said it … I apologize” = get over it already, I said I’m sorry, you’re being hysterical


.................SNIP"
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Donald Trump as a “gaslighter”: What we must learn from his manipulative non-apology (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2016 OP
This bit is exactly how I've seen Trump all along: Beartracks Oct 2016 #1
Something's not right with Trump's brain! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #2

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
1. This bit is exactly how I've seen Trump all along:
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:19 PM
Oct 2016

"Bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant."

(emphasis added)


Deliberate liars care about what the truth is, and then try to cover it up. Trump, however, has no real relationship with the truth at all -- he just bullshits. Just so happens -- when you do that, most of what you ends up not being true anyway.

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