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Cuyahoga and Franklin counties in Ohio (Original Post) triron Oct 2016 OP
Do you have a link for that? LisaL Oct 2016 #1
updated. triron Oct 2016 #2
It's not all bad news. As Huff Post says regarding the 18 and 32% drop Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #4
MacDonald is off triron Oct 2016 #9
good good! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #11
:) GOTV Dems !! and holy cow, Ohio. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #3
CLARIFICATION: These numbers are NOT for Dems only writes3000 Oct 2016 #5
Exactly! Huff Post stated that also, but I didn't include that in my reply helping update the OP Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #6
Yes, Va is looking good. But OH doesn't. LisaL Oct 2016 #8
It's seems rather unlikely that Republicans aren't the ones voting. LisaL Oct 2016 #7
true, the other counties are up just a tick from 4 years ago, but the 2 big counties are down Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #12
Yes, those are the two key counties in OH. LisaL Oct 2016 #15
They did start voting much earlier in 2012. LisaL Oct 2016 #16
thank you for the date! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #17
Yep. 10 days lost could easily explain 30% down. LisaL Oct 2016 #19
I can explain that. The more educated Rpublicans in the cities aren't loving Trump writes3000 Oct 2016 #14
Ohio would be critical to a Trump win, but there are many paths for HRC pnwmom Oct 2016 #10
Right on, pnwmom. VA going so strongly for the Dems is huge. So, GOP fleeing there closes off Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #13
For many reasons, Hillary's choice of Tim Kaine made a lot of sense. pnwmom Oct 2016 #18
yes! if things go bad in other states, picking Kaine may just turn out to be the election save! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Oct 2016 #21
Voter turnout is good in Franklin. They might be behind in LisaL Oct 2016 #25
Obama is not on the ballot UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2016 #22
FYI These statistics are for *requested* absentee ballots, not actual votes... Princess Turandot Oct 2016 #23
No, the article says it includes mail and in person voting activity. LisaL Oct 2016 #24

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
4. It's not all bad news. As Huff Post says regarding the 18 and 32% drop
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:10 AM
Oct 2016

www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-more-states_b_12517738.html


"Also, in 2012, Ohio in-person early voting was underway for a longer period at this point in the cycle."


Though, it's certainly not great news. Let's just hope people who aren't really in the mood to vote because of the unpopularity of these 2 with half (or more in Dumdum's case) of the voters, will realize Trump MUST be stopped. I cannot even fathom how nauseated we will all be if he won, and hopefully those less inclined to vote will do so! Again, like I tell everyone I know, "you gotta vote, please!", and like they say, we're mostly friends with like minded people on politics, so I know if everyone voted I talk to, that'd be great!

triron

(22,006 posts)
9. MacDonald is off
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:51 AM
Oct 2016

on his pollster averages for Iowa and Ohio due to Clinton's recent surge. Appears he significantly overestimates Trumps chances at each of these states.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
5. CLARIFICATION: These numbers are NOT for Dems only
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:22 AM
Oct 2016

If you read the article CAREFULLY, it states that Ohio doesn't give party identification info on who bites early. So while the early vote totals are down in these counties, we don't know the breakdown of Dems voting versus Republicans voting. It's entirely conceivable that Republicans in cities are not voting early which would bring the overall totals down.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
6. Exactly! Huff Post stated that also, but I didn't include that in my reply helping update the OP
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:39 AM
Oct 2016

Thanks for doing so!


Also, the great news is that VA early voting was so bad for Trump they gave up the state as we heard!

"within the Democratic stronghold of Northern Virginia it is up 55.6%"

"Stick a fork in Virginia, it’s done. The early voting numbers and polling numbers are looking so bad for Trump that the campaign pulled out last week, essentially conceded the state to Clinton."

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
7. It's seems rather unlikely that Republicans aren't the ones voting.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:44 AM
Oct 2016

Considering all the other counties don't have reduced turnout. If Republicans weren't early voting, you'd expected reduced turnout in heavily republican counties. But apparently that isn't happening.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
12. true, the other counties are up just a tick from 4 years ago, but the 2 big counties are down
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:54 AM
Oct 2016

So, obviously, they need to be pushing the GOTV in those counties exclusively. I really hope LeBron keeps telling people to vote, and I'm sure he will.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
15. Yes, those are the two key counties in OH.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 02:04 AM
Oct 2016

Obama beat Romney by huge margins in both of them. It's be very disappointing if democrats in those counties don't get out to vote.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
16. They did start voting much earlier in 2012.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 02:12 AM
Oct 2016

I found an article from October 3, 2012. They were already early voting. This year early voting started on October 12. So 10 days of early voting were lost this year. We can only hope they will catch up.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/10/03/new-early-voting-site-has-critics-fans-on-first-day.html

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
17. thank you for the date!
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 02:14 AM
Oct 2016

that matters a lot, and many working class people in those counties early vote on the weekend, so despite the OH sec of state getting his wish (sigh.... typical) and getting early voting cut down, hopefully people will vote before election day when lines will be huge after work.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
14. I can explain that. The more educated Rpublicans in the cities aren't loving Trump
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:57 AM
Oct 2016

In the same way the less educated ones do.

I'm not saying I'm right but since we don't have party ID numbers, it's all conjecture.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
13. Right on, pnwmom. VA going so strongly for the Dems is huge. So, GOP fleeing there closes off
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:56 AM
Oct 2016

another hope for them. Yes!!! If FL stays for her, it's over. But, we can't assume it definitely will, of course, but he has a huge Hill (lol) in front of him to climb, and he ain't the guy to do it!

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
18. For many reasons, Hillary's choice of Tim Kaine made a lot of sense.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 02:15 AM
Oct 2016

But those electoral votes could prove to be critical. Excellent call, HRC!

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
20. yes! if things go bad in other states, picking Kaine may just turn out to be the election save!
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 02:19 AM
Oct 2016

Hopefully it will be a landslide for us, but if not, knowing that dumdum is already out of VA is awesome!

Response to triron (Original post)

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
25. Voter turnout is good in Franklin. They might be behind in
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 08:57 PM
Oct 2016

the total number of votes, because OH lost 10 days of early voting compared to 2012. But they are turning out in higher numbers if you compare each day to each day. So hopefully they can catch up to 2012 over the whole voting period.

"Voter turnout in Franklin County, home to state capital Columbus, is robust with more than 9,300 votes cast in person in the first four days, a 80 percent boost over the same period in 2012."
http://plunderbund.com/2016/10/20/hillarys-vp-sen-tim-kaine-tells-ohioans-2016-election-in-the-palm-of-their-hands/

22. Obama is not on the ballot
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 04:49 AM
Oct 2016

The downward trend of early voting may be inevitable in the highly populated African American areas, but that's not necessarily "bad" for Hillary. Since Obama is not on the ballot, we have to come to grips with the fact that quite a few Black people, young people, and anybody else that the "Hope and Change" campaign galvanized is not going to be as motivated.

As a Hillary supporter, I have been trying to urge them to focus on the Obama coalition, but we should definitely have our own identity in order to encourage voter turnout.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
23. FYI These statistics are for *requested* absentee ballots, not actual votes...
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:38 AM
Oct 2016

That's noted in his article. And as others have said, these numbers relate to all requested ballots, not requests by party. They can continue to request ballots until 11/5. In 2012, 40% of ballot requests came in after 10/5/2012

And FWIW, while those counties voted heavily for Pres. Obama in 2012, there were 400,000 votes for Romney between the two of them.


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