2016 Postmortem

MattP

(3,304 posts) Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:34 PM Oct 2016

So Roger Stone knew in August the Russians were hacking Podesta and it continued?

Is that a crime?

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So Roger Stone knew in August the Russians were hacking Podesta and it continued? (Original Post) MattP Oct 2016 OP

It should be criminal treason. blm Oct 2016 #1

Hacking is illegal. Lint Head Oct 2016 #2

Yes, it is an accessory to a crime. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #3

anticipatory obstruction of justice Coyotl Oct 2016 #4

Remember when someone hacked Caribou Barbie's email account? orwell Oct 2016 #5

Yes it is, and he is in trouble Foggyhill Oct 2016 #6

Stone has tweeted that he is considering spilling some beans, under pressure from the FBI. anamandujano Oct 2016 #9

it should be treason patsimp Oct 2016 #7

Where are the REAL journalists? This shit has been going on for over a year or two Iliyah Oct 2016 #8

blm

(113,063 posts)

1. It should be criminal treason.

Reply to MattP (Original post)

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:36 PM

Oct 2016

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)

2. Hacking is illegal.

Reply to MattP (Original post)

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:41 PM

Oct 2016

David Kernell was charged in October 2008 in federal court. After he was led into the court in leg irons and handcuffs, the judge released him on his own recognizance, pending trial.[1][2] The incident was ultimately prosecuted in a U.S. federal court as four felony crimes punishable by up to 50 years in federal prison.[3][4] The charges were three felonies: identity theft, wire fraud, and anticipatory obstruction of justice; and one optional as felony or misdemeanor: intentionally accessing an account without authorization. Kernell pleaded not guilty to all counts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_email_hack

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)

3. Yes, it is an accessory to a crime.

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Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:45 PM

Oct 2016

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)

4. anticipatory obstruction of justice

Reply to MattP (Original post)

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:51 PM

Oct 2016

Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsified, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under Title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Prosecutors charging violations of Section 1519 must still establish both of the following:

The accused knowingly directed the obstructive act to affect an issue or matter within the jurisdiction of any U.S. department or agency.
The accused acted at least “in relation to” or “in contemplation’” of such issue or matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstruction_of_justice

orwell

(7,773 posts)

5. Remember when someone hacked Caribou Barbie's email account?

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Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:05 PM

Oct 2016

That didn't end well...and that was nothing like what we have going on here. Where is the outrage from the right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_email_hack

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)

6. Yes it is, and he is in trouble

Reply to MattP (Original post)

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:15 PM

Oct 2016

Possibly the trump campaign too if anyone else knew which is highly probable

Some people are about to be very acquainted with FBI
If there is two way comm, it would be even worse

If they knew it was ongoing (did not get info after it was all done) and did not tell law enforcement, someone is going to jail

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)

9. Stone has tweeted that he is considering spilling some beans, under pressure from the FBI.

Reply to Foggyhill (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:43 PM

Oct 2016

He said that a non-disclosure deal with tRump was null and void for some reason. It sounded like a threat. He and the sad little man appear to be a loggerheads.

It does look like we will be treated to a popcorn fest before too long.

patsimp

(915 posts)

7. it should be treason

Reply to MattP (Original post)

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:17 PM

Oct 2016

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

8. Where are the REAL journalists? This shit has been going on for over a year or two

Reply to MattP (Original post)

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 01:28 PM

Oct 2016

House gopers refuse to investigate and the Dems had to ask the FBI to step in. The present administration has said over and over again that the hacking is being done by outside forces and e-mails are being release through WikiLeaks and no media outlet is really saying nada BUT HRC server, e-mails, Benghazi and FBI are in question. What the fuck.

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