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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:03 AM Oct 2016

‘..panic is beginning’: GOP strategist Steve Schmidt predicts Election Day disaster for Republicans

‘The panic is beginning’: GOP strategist Steve Schmidt predicts Election Day disaster for Republicans

TRAVIS GETTYS
19 OCT 2016 AT 08:16 ET

Republican strategist Steve Schmidt sees a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton and possible Democratic majorities in both the U.S. Senate and House.

Schmidt told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Wednesday morning that Clinton was currently “trending over 400” electoral votes, based on recent polling, and he said Republicans are freaking out over the real possibility of losing their majorities in both houses of Congress.

“If this election was today, I think Republicans are down 25 seats (in the House), as of today — with the trend line going in the wrong direction,” Schmidt said.

He said the internal numbers of recent polls are not good for Republicans, and he predicted Democrats would retake the Senate and could possibly regain a majority in the House for the first time since 2009.

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/the-panic-is-beginning-gop-strategist-steve-schmidt-predicts-election-day-disaster-for-republicans/
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‘..panic is beginning’: GOP strategist Steve Schmidt predicts Election Day disaster for Republicans (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
Please let him be right. Please let him be right. Please, please, pretty please. writes3000 Oct 2016 #1
Yep. He said the internals in both the GOP and Democratic Party are showing this trend. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #52
Well, it's not like trump hasn't been Cha Oct 2016 #2
I don't know if 'beg' is the right word. randome Oct 2016 #4
you forgot 'a sexual predator', 'misogynistic', 'crooked' ... groundloop Oct 2016 #13
yes... how could the world do this to donald trump? liberalla Oct 2016 #61
He's like a combination of Lex Luthor and Dr. Doom, wanting revenge on the world. randome Oct 2016 #64
trump in spandex! EWWWWWWWWW!!! liberalla Oct 2016 #65
Lex Luthor?? volstork Oct 2016 #72
But Coolest Ranger Oct 2016 #75
I'm thinking old school Luthor, who wanted revenge on Superman for causing him to lose his hair. randome Oct 2016 #77
Yeah! So, Republicans...you're going to lose so badly, MineralMan Oct 2016 #3
No, they NEED to go vote on November 28th groundloop Oct 2016 #15
November 8 is the day Obama is planning to grab all their guns NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #29
The FEMA camps open that day, too. nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #37
what a joy it was to watch him today! If Joe thought he'd get a lift from this guy he was a mile off CTyankee Oct 2016 #5
Wouldn't that be the sweetest poetic justice? lillypaddle Oct 2016 #6
I think a big issue will be no shows for the Repubs. DCBob Oct 2016 #7
Yep.... I have a trumpkin in my family... never voted in his life and won't bother to even register groundloop Oct 2016 #17
Trump himself is discouraging them NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #41
He suggested.... Adrahil Oct 2016 #8
I've been suspecting this based on... jcgoldie Oct 2016 #11
I've heard that a few times in recent weeks NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #31
That's because the public polls are there to create a horse race padfun Oct 2016 #44
I honestly do not think that is true. Adrahil Oct 2016 #55
I agree that the good ones dont padfun Oct 2016 #58
Not holding my breath. tanyev Oct 2016 #9
Prosecco will be useful either way Ellen Forradalom Oct 2016 #20
OMG please let this happen!!! workinclasszero Oct 2016 #10
Lumpy the obstruction on our front page helping us. Keep him there until Nov 8. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #12
If it happens - Hillary should declare 11-28 Donald Trump Day ! Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #14
Yes it could be a day of public service where in his honor we all pick up Cakes488 Oct 2016 #25
"Republicans are freaking out over the real possibility of losing their majorities in both houses" Coyotl Oct 2016 #16
LOL cyberswede Oct 2016 #21
That's an expectations game forecast bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #18
Schmidt is a pretty straight shooter Cosmocat Oct 2016 #22
I agree with you bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #34
He's the one who made the first assessment of Trump after the first debate calimary Oct 2016 #59
I saw him interviewed last night radical noodle Oct 2016 #19
Trump is directly attacking the concept of democracy now workinclasszero Oct 2016 #23
He is a different cat for a republican Cosmocat Oct 2016 #24
I have liked much of what he's had to say about Trump radical noodle Oct 2016 #30
He choked up while talking about how FDR defined what it means to be presidential. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #38
I saw that Brian Williams' segment, too peggysue2 Oct 2016 #42
We need a huge win to prove to the world radical noodle Oct 2016 #48
I was impressed that Brian Williams actually let him finish the thought. ... Hekate Oct 2016 #63
It's way past time for the media to have a serious conversation radical noodle Oct 2016 #67
We saw that also, and were very moved by what he said. It was a long and heartfelt statement... Hekate Oct 2016 #60
Schmidt is a frequent guest on Bill Maher's "Real Time" VOX Oct 2016 #71
Beginning? Only for the slow ones. stone space Oct 2016 #26
DON'T GET COCKY. pangaia Oct 2016 #27
Well, he needs to keep reminding Republicans to vote mountain grammy Oct 2016 #28
This would be the best possible outcome for both parties and our country BlueState Oct 2016 #32
I think people are just sick to death of this do nothing Congress. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2016 #33
Time to double our efforts... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #35
1000% !! arthritisR_US Oct 2016 #56
And McCain is boldly proclaiming they won't work with the new President. C Moon Oct 2016 #36
Willie Geist's face when Schmidt says 400: Priceless Native Oct 2016 #39
They'd still obstruct wryter2000 Oct 2016 #40
GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #45
It would be more than past time! Amonester Oct 2016 #50
And after the election- Trump was not a true conservative hibbing Oct 2016 #46
may it be so. niyad Oct 2016 #47
So by electoral math the only way Hillary gets over 400.. MichDem10 Oct 2016 #49
I hope he is right. still_one Oct 2016 #51
Trouble with these kinds of predictions is that they motivate arthritisR_US Oct 2016 #53
I keep hearing this and I dont agree padfun Oct 2016 #57
They created this pig swill, now they must wallow in it. liberal N proud Oct 2016 #54
GOP Strategist Mike Murphy: "Presidential is looking like a wipeout" brooklynite Oct 2016 #62
"Oh my lord......very bad" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2016 #66
As long as TimeToGo Oct 2016 #69
Yet, to the repub/cons base, the Donald is the most credible candidate of the GOP lot. keithbvadu2 Oct 2016 #70
From his mouth Coolest Ranger Oct 2016 #73
He said something last night about Trump being like a guy wandering around th park feeding squirrels LeftRant Oct 2016 #74
If it does happen the Democrats need to take off the gloves with the Republicans cstanleytech Oct 2016 #76

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
1. Please let him be right. Please let him be right. Please, please, pretty please.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:07 AM
Oct 2016

Retaking the House would be such a just outcome.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. I don't know if 'beg' is the right word.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:11 AM
Oct 2016

I think he self-destructively wants to punish the world for 'allowing' him to be mortal and old and in decline.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
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liberalla

(9,248 posts)
61. yes... how could the world do this to donald trump?
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:34 PM
Oct 2016

mortal, old and in decline... and now a laughingstock too... damn world!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
64. He's like a combination of Lex Luthor and Dr. Doom, wanting revenge on the world.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 01:07 PM
Oct 2016

He wouldn't look so good in spandex, though. No one would be impressed.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
75. But
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 06:33 AM
Oct 2016

Lex Luthor is ten times smarter than Donald Trump ever was. Lex at least became President in the comics and on several TV shows Lex is smart don't disrespect the Lex.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
77. I'm thinking old school Luthor, who wanted revenge on Superman for causing him to lose his hair.
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 07:54 AM
Oct 2016

The guy who was sent to prison again and again.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
3. Yeah! So, Republicans...you're going to lose so badly,
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:10 AM
Oct 2016

there's really no reason to bother going to the polls...

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
29. November 8 is the day Obama is planning to grab all their guns
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:36 AM
Oct 2016

so, they need to make sure they stay indoors those days.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. what a joy it was to watch him today! If Joe thought he'd get a lift from this guy he was a mile off
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:18 AM
Oct 2016

It made my day!

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
6. Wouldn't that be the sweetest poetic justice?
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:20 AM
Oct 2016

And speaking of "justice," fuck you John McCain and all you other repug obstructionists! It would be clear sailing ahead.

Oh please please please let it happen!!!

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. I think a big issue will be no shows for the Repubs.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:21 AM
Oct 2016

The regular "normal" Republicans might not show since they think Trump is a lunatic and the Trumpkins might not show since they think the election is "rigged". Furthermore many of the RW loons that support Trump are too lazy to show up at the polls or too dumb to figure out where and when they are supposed to vote.

Looks like a massive epic blowout in the making. Lovely!

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
17. Yep.... I have a trumpkin in my family... never voted in his life and won't bother to even register
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:55 AM
Oct 2016

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
41. Trump himself is discouraging them
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:43 AM
Oct 2016

When he says the election is "rigged," he's inadvertently telling his own supporters they may as well not bother voting. Anti-Trumpers aren't affected; we don't believe anything he says.

Good move, Trump. Oh, and...checkmate.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
11. I've been suspecting this based on...
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:40 AM
Oct 2016

When the Trump campaign says they are pulling out of VA while Clinton is going on offense in AZ, TX, and GA and spreading money downballot in MO, it's pretty evident the internal polling is trending wildly in her favor.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
31. I've heard that a few times in recent weeks
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:37 AM
Oct 2016

about internals for both parties showing a bigger margin.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
44. That's because the public polls are there to create a horse race
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:46 AM
Oct 2016

where as their internals are based on reality.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
55. I honestly do not think that is true.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:12 PM
Oct 2016

The public pollsters (at least the good ones) have an incentive to be as accurate as they can get.... competition for sponsorships (though some, like Rasmussen, obviously cater to a particular audience).

The reason private polls are often more accurate is because they have access to proprietary data from the parties. The parties often have VERY detailed data which let's them construct a more accurate model of the electorate. Of course, they can be susceptible to wishful thinking as well, as in 2012 where internal pollsters on the GOP side were fooling themselves with unrealistic turnout models.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
58. I agree that the good ones dont
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:19 PM
Oct 2016

and I based my post on how they include obvious outlier polls such as the LA Times/USC or whatever poll that always had Trump with a 4-5 point lead, regardless on the other polls having Hillary up by 6-9. So by including this poll, it made the race much closer than it is/was.

However I have noticed that RCP has stopped including this poll in their listings lately.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
20. Prosecco will be useful either way
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:08 AM
Oct 2016

Win or lose, we'll all need a drink (real or imagined, hard or soft) when this is done.

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
25. Yes it could be a day of public service where in his honor we all pick up
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:22 AM
Oct 2016

trash from the streets and parks.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. "Republicans are freaking out over the real possibility of losing their majorities in both houses"
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:54 AM
Oct 2016

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
18. That's an expectations game forecast
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:59 AM
Oct 2016

coming from a Republican

I'll believe it when I see it

and I sure hope we do

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
22. Schmidt is a pretty straight shooter
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:12 AM
Oct 2016

He is republican for sure, but has been increasingly disaffected since the end of the Bush presidency and the McCain campaign.

He could be wrong (though unlike 99% of other Rs, he is not complete driven by confirmation bias), but I am pretty confident that he isn't playing the expectations game, so to speak.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
34. I agree with you
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:45 AM
Oct 2016

I didn't want to give him too much credit

Just the other day I posted support for his ideas in another OP,
and I was lambasted that he was the worst #@($*%@(% GOP SOB
that ever advised anyone and I didn't know what I was talking about

So as usual .... people disagree, that's what makes horse races

calimary

(81,267 posts)
59. He's the one who made the first assessment of Trump after the first debate
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:22 PM
Oct 2016

that Trump "ran out of gas" after the first 20 or 30 minutes. And it stuck. And within a few minutes a slew of other pundits and talking heads were using that same metaphor.

He is a pretty straight shooter. He's not adverse to saying, flat-out, when his team is failing. He doesn't try to pivot or otherwise change the subject or run off at the mouth the way the Trump surrogates and other assorted "yeah, but HILLARY/yeah, but BILL CLINTON..." team members do. Steve Schmidt seems, at least, to have a grip on objective reality. Perhaps he realized he needed to move out of Bubble World after McCain/Palin went belly-up.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
19. I saw him interviewed last night
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:59 AM
Oct 2016

He was choking back tears just talking about how awful Trump is, not just for the Republicans but for our democracy. He has never supported Trump and now he's worried about the nation as a whole, about the tone of this election being so toxic.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
23. Trump is directly attacking the concept of democracy now
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:14 AM
Oct 2016

Non-insane republicans can see that, too bad they let a fascist monster win their nomination.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
24. He is a different cat for a republican
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:17 AM
Oct 2016

He IS a republican and wants them to win.

But, he is not like 99% of republicans who are driven by this modern day confirmation bias - conservative good, liberal bad.

He has been increasingly disaffected since the end of the Bush presidency and the Mccain/Palin campaign.

He was certainly not unhappy to comment or report on their big gains in the last two mid terms, and he clearly would have rathered Romney win.

But, he is was aghast at Palin and while he clearly respected McCain, he didn't try to pretty up his choice of Palin.

And, he has clearly been pained by and not tried to paint Trump as anything other than the POS he is this whole cycle.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
30. I have liked much of what he's had to say about Trump
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:37 AM
Oct 2016

Nicole Wallace is another who doesn't hold back about Trump. There are others, but those are the two I see most often.

I think country is more important than party to them. Nicole had a position in the McCain campaign but voted against McCain in 2008 because of Palin.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
38. He choked up while talking about how FDR defined what it means to be presidential.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:03 AM
Oct 2016

Pretty amazing, and touching.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
42. I saw that Brian Williams' segment, too
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:44 AM
Oct 2016

And was taken with Schmidt's emotional reaction to the massive damage The Donald is doing, not merely to the GOP but the whole democratic process. He spoke about the legacy we owe to our children, and then chillingly reminded the audience that fascism took root in Europe not because fascism was strong but because democracy was weak.

Reasonable, moderate Republicans actually do get it--Donald Trump threatens the very fabric of this country. Trump and his odious cohorts must be stopped.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
48. We need a huge win to prove to the world
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:58 AM
Oct 2016

that Trump's hate filled message won't be tolerated in this country. It's sad to realize that it took so long for many to start to see through him.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
63. I was impressed that Brian Williams actually let him finish the thought. ...
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:39 PM
Oct 2016

So many of the talking heads are incapable of that any more, and what Steve S was saying was very important, needed to be said, and needed complete thoughts, not soundbites.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
67. It's way past time for the media to have a serious conversation
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 02:56 PM
Oct 2016

instead of simply chasing scandals and talking points.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
60. We saw that also, and were very moved by what he said. It was a long and heartfelt statement...
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:27 PM
Oct 2016

...on the history of our democracy, and the absolute necessity of the peaceful transition of power for the continuation of it.

Steve Schmidt is coming from an educated heart, rather that the "gut feeling" so touted by Trumpites.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
71. Schmidt is a frequent guest on Bill Maher's "Real Time"
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 06:38 PM
Oct 2016

He's a sincere guy, and reasonable. Maybe he should consider leaving the G.O.P. fold...I'd actually relish that!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. DON'T GET COCKY.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:26 AM
Oct 2016

DON'T GET LAZY
If every Democrat gets 1/4 of another repub or undecided to vote Dem, we win big!!

BlueState

(642 posts)
32. This would be the best possible outcome for both parties and our country
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:38 AM
Oct 2016

Trumpism should be made toxic. Reasonable conservatives should kick the tea baggers and trumpeters to he curb and begin the long slow process of marching back to sanity.

The political discussion has been brought down by right wing forces who have created a cottage industry in peddling conspiracy theory and stupidity. This has culminated in the ridiculous absurdity of Trump's candidacy. We can't allow any force to take us any lower than this.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
33. I think people are just sick to death of this do nothing Congress.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:39 AM
Oct 2016

We really need to get people in there that will do their job. Our country depends on it.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
35. Time to double our efforts...
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:48 AM
Oct 2016

Do everything possible to make the Republican defeat as thunderous as possible. If you can, please donate. If you can't, call your local Democratic Office. Offer to give rides to the polls, knock on doors, make phone calls, or stuff envelopes. Every little bit helps!

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
36. And McCain is boldly proclaiming they won't work with the new President.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:55 AM
Oct 2016

Of course you all are going to be booted. Nobody wants to take us back to the Bush year economy. We all want things to improve. Take off that clown mask and do some work!

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
40. They'd still obstruct
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:27 AM
Oct 2016

I doubt anything is going to make them stop filibustering in the Senate.

Still, this would be amazing.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
43. GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:45 AM
Oct 2016

We have to make sure people get to the polls. When we show up in large numbers, we win.

Remember the down tickets!!

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
50. It would be more than past time!
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:06 PM
Oct 2016

Obstructionist Republicans are the main reason why America is not greater than it could be.

And the only reason Climate Change is still not taken seriously enough.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
46. And after the election- Trump was not a true conservative
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:53 AM
Oct 2016

So they will continue with their right wing nutjobiness.

Peace

MichDem10

(713 posts)
49. So by electoral math the only way Hillary gets over 400..
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:59 AM
Oct 2016

She would have to win: FL, GA, NC, OH, IA, AZ, and TEXAS!!! Texas is the only way I see her getting over 400.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
53. Trouble with these kinds of predictions is that they motivate
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:08 PM
Oct 2016

the RWNJs to get out and vote for the down ticket and the left gets complacent thinking they have it in the bag so they don't have to bother getting out to vote. It's time as these that we have to be sure to vote and actively get others on our side and get them to vote!

padfun

(1,786 posts)
57. I keep hearing this and I dont agree
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:14 PM
Oct 2016

There wont be complacency and there never is during presidential elections. Especially in states where the legalization of marijuana is on the ballot. I am seeing the young ones here in California getting involved in the election like no other, and it isn't because of Trump vs Clinton. Now this isn't a good example since any Democrat would win this state regardless of ballot measures, but most that I am talking to really want to vote and don't care how big a lead Hillary has.

The problem comes in the mid-terms when the party's own GOTV is lacking. And we know what demographic groups fail to vote in those elections so we can rectify this with better GOTV during midterms.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
66. "Oh my lord......very bad"
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 01:25 PM
Oct 2016

Listen to fucking Meeeeker cry when Steve says the house may be close. Fuck her, fuck Joe, and fuck Willie Geist.

LeftRant

(524 posts)
74. He said something last night about Trump being like a guy wandering around th park feeding squirrels
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 06:33 AM
Oct 2016

in the debate. HAHA!

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
76. If it does happen the Democrats need to take off the gloves with the Republicans
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 07:34 AM
Oct 2016

and ram through tax reform to close all the loopholes the wealthy and varies corporations have been exploiting as well as appoint some extremely liberal SCOTUS judges followed by laws to make it so PACs cannot hide who funds them and must reveal the sources of cash in a clearly transparent manner.

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