2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere is a reason why Trump is pushing the "Rigged Election" idea
What if Russia were to hack just a few key states election systems...?
FL, OH, AZ, GA, NC, just to restore the 2012 map plus Ohio, Florida and one or two more would be enough for Trump to Win.
Dems and practically everyone else has been countering Trump's claims that the election is rigged. They would not be able to argue the election were hacked.
According to this report from CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-hacking-explained/index.html
18 states have asked the federal government for help securing their election systems.
At least two states, Indiana and Arizona, have reported breaches of their election systems.
If Trump and Putin are best buds and Putin wants to put Trump into power, this is the most likely scenario for them to succeed. And most of the claims about interference would have been defused by the countering of Trump's rigged election conspiracy claims.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Trump running around screaming "RIGGED! RIGGED! RIGGED!" and blaring out dog whistles like "you KNOW what I mean", "inner cities" and "THEY"amounts to an appeal to his racist base of support and is meant to cast doubt on his impending loss.
The man simply cannot accept the fact that he is going to lose and lose royally. His personality disorder precludes the possibility in his mind, so to counter the gaping difference between what he wants (to win) and what is happening (he is getting crucified) Trump starts making excuses for the results 3 weeks out. I fully believe that his "concession speech" on Nov. 8th will sound like this:
"Folks....folks...I told you so. I told you. We called it for months that Crooked Hillary would steal the election and now it appears to have been the case all along. You won't believe what I am hearing from the inner-city poll watchers. Horrible. Terrible what THEY are doing. This election was RIGGED and STOLEN FROM US. I am sending the best people to investigate this injustice and I will get to the bottom of things."
This asshat talking Yam is willing to burn down the entire government to salve his chapped ass and anyone supporting that should be held as a traitor to the United States of America and held to count for it. Voting for an idiot is one thing...supporting insane and unsubstantiated claims of fraud and sedition is something completely different.
There's going to be a special prosecutor alright...they just won't be looking into the actions of Hillary Clinton in 2017, they will be preparing a trial for Donald J. Trump.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)0rganism
(23,955 posts)it's the security of central tabulators that makes me nervous, moreso than the point-of-entry systems for the ballots. if i were going to hack the election, that would be where i'd attack -- through the telco connection between precincts and tabulators. much easier to change a few numbers in a few columns than to mess with the callbacks for touchscreen interface guis.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That is the absolute last way anyone would try to hack an election if they wanted to get away with it. The number one way if they wanted to get caught. So many people don't fully understand how open our voting system has become in most all states for Presidential elections.
0rganism
(23,955 posts)cos it sure looks to me like the easiest path to illicitly changing the election outcome would be a man-in-the-middle attack on the precinct-tabulator transactions.
but maybe it's a lot harder to pull off correctly than i'm thinking it is.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That is where I am most knowledgeable. You should take a look at how Florida verifies.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Maeve
(42,282 posts)The title of the linked report is "No, the 2016 presidential election can't be hacked" And to quote from it:
5. So should voters be worried?
Experts say rather than the hacks, it's the reaction from the public that scares them.
Rumors of hacking -- even if not successful -- could undermine faith in the election and play into a losing politician's claim that the election was "rigged." Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has frequently questioned whether the election results can be trusted.
"That's what worries me, not just the cyberattack impacting the vote, but the cyber fears playing into such a narrative," Weaver said. "The damage is not the computer hack. The damage is the reaction to the computer hack."
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...agree in advance to test protocols. It's to undercut the inevitable excuses that accompanied failures. Trump is pre-excusing his coming humiliation, not foreshadowing an epic hack that gives him the win.
0rganism
(23,955 posts)conceivable, but if they fuck it up and it goes public... very high risk operation.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We have a robust method to verify the results. We have a solid paper trail and it is used for verification. Pushing this is nothing more than right wing crap.
"There is a reason why Trump is pushing the "Rigged Election" idea What if Russia were to hack just a few key states election systems...?"
That makes absolutely no sense at all. You directly state Trump is pushing it because Russia might hack a few key states elections or something similar. Trump would be silent as fuck if he thought that was the case. Why are you trying to assign positive motives for what that shady fuck is doing?
The reason Trump is doing it is because he is going to lose big. He isn't doing it because he wants to shed light on a foreign government helping him.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)is going to lose fair and square