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New New York poll (Siena): Clinton 54 - Trump 30 - Johnson 5 - Stein 4 (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2016 OP
Looks about right Renew Deal Oct 2016 #1
I'm on Long Island and saw a Trump ad last night on tv. It was SO OTT negative KittyWampus Oct 2016 #2
Surprised Trump gets 30% in NY NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #3
Nothing "local" about it leftynyc Oct 2016 #5
Onondaga and Cayuga counties have a lot of Trumpians whistler162 Oct 2016 #12
Long Island might split HockeyMom Oct 2016 #13
Nassau for Clinton leftynyc Oct 2016 #14
Long Island and Staten Island have some Trumpholes too nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #19
there are a lot of red counties outside of the city and long island is red too. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #9
Not so leftynyc Oct 2016 #15
I am really shocked...I must be thinking more about local politicians... Cakes488 Oct 2016 #17
LI used to be VERY red leftynyc Oct 2016 #18
Remember when the Trumpsters were claiming they would put NY in play. DCBob Oct 2016 #4
I see his ads here leftynyc Oct 2016 #6
His whole campaign has been a colossal waste of money, time and effort. DCBob Oct 2016 #7
Agree 100% leftynyc Oct 2016 #8
Not just the best of the field NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #21
I've always wondered leftynyc Oct 2016 #23
Jeb would have had a lot of money behind him NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #24
I honestly think his last name leftynyc Oct 2016 #25
Yes there are a lot of Trashbag ads running in NY and I'm wondering why too?? Cakes488 Oct 2016 #10
Because Trump is an idiot workinclasszero Oct 2016 #11
they're also afraid to stand up to him NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #22
Same reason he freaked out when he heard his campaign was pulling out of Virginia, sarae Oct 2016 #26
Yeah I saw his ads while watching TVLand Thrill Oct 2016 #16
This will be good if Trump loses by big numbers in NY, right in his face. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #27
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. I'm on Long Island and saw a Trump ad last night on tv. It was SO OTT negative
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:22 PM
Oct 2016

it was nothing more than an unpleasant eye-roller.

Then a Hillary ad comes on and it's her voice, upbeat and hopeful with kids.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. Surprised Trump gets 30% in NY
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:23 PM
Oct 2016

maybe he gets a few points for being a local.

I'm guessing he'll be in the low 20s in Massachusetts.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
5. Nothing "local" about it
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:29 PM
Oct 2016

All 30% come from upstate. Down here where we know him best, he's getting clobbered. Those votes are coming from hundreds of miles away from NYC.

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
17. I am really shocked...I must be thinking more about local politicians...
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 02:39 PM
Oct 2016

The makeup of the island is changing, perhaps this is the reason for the shift. I still would be very very surprised if Clinton takes Nassau or Suffolk county...there is much hate for her here...I hope I will be pleasantly surprised.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
18. LI used to be VERY red
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 03:11 PM
Oct 2016

but the disgusting corruption of that party in the 90s really turned things around. It was the same in Westchester County (where I'm from). We always see way more signs for the pubbies but our country has been reliably blue for 10 years or so also. They buy signs and beat their chests - we vote in large numbers.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
6. I see his ads here
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:29 PM
Oct 2016

and wonder why he's wasting his money. Then I remember it's not his money.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. His whole campaign has been a colossal waste of money, time and effort.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:32 PM
Oct 2016

The man is a complete and utter lunatic and should never have been considered as a serious candidate for any political office.. much less POTUS.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
8. Agree 100%
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:33 PM
Oct 2016

but it tells you everything you need to know about the current state of the gop that he was considered the best out of the 17 running for the nomination.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
21. Not just the best of the field
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 03:27 PM
Oct 2016

but, he beat them pretty handily. Only Ted Cruz was somewhat of a challenge. Not Jeb Bush, not Marco Rubio, nor Chris Christie or John Kasich.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. I've always wondered
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 03:32 PM
Oct 2016

if the field would have been smaller (say just donnie, marco, jeb and teddy), would he still have won? Don't really care enough to dig through the swamps to see how the votes split out but have been curious about it. I always felt the only one that Hillary would have had a hard time beating was kasich (who never stood a chance, he's too good at playacting sane).

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
24. Jeb would have had a lot of money behind him
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 03:35 PM
Oct 2016

from the GOP establishment and all the big money donors.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
25. I honestly think his last name
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 03:37 PM
Oct 2016

would have sunk him. Comparing the Clinton years and the Bush years isn't even a fair fight.

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
10. Yes there are a lot of Trashbag ads running in NY and I'm wondering why too??
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:35 PM
Oct 2016

Total waste of $$ why spend a dollar in a state he has absolutely zero chance of winning??

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. they're also afraid to stand up to him
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 03:28 PM
Oct 2016

and tell him that spending in NY is a waste of money for him. That tells you a lot about Trump and about his top staffers.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
26. Same reason he freaked out when he heard his campaign was pulling out of Virginia,
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 03:42 PM
Oct 2016

because he's a grade A moron.

Now he's spending millions to buy ads there...

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