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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,052 posts)
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:26 PM Oct 2016

538: Clinton Probably Finished Off Trump Last Night

I’m not sure I need to tell you this, but Hillary Clinton is probably going to be the next president. It’s just a question of what “probably” means.

Clinton went into the final presidential debate on Wednesday with a lead of about 7 percentage points over Donald Trump. And according to the only two scientific polls we’ve seen, voters thought that Clinton won the debate. Occasionally, the initial reaction to a debate can differ from the way it’s perceived days later. But in this case, the morning headlines, which focused overwhelmingly on Trump’s refusal to say whether he’ll accept the election results, are potentially worse for Trump than the debate itself. In YouGov’s poll of debate watchers, 68 percent of voters said they think the candidates should pledge to accept the results of the election.

There are less than three weeks left in the campaign, and there are no more guaranteed opportunities for Trump or Clinton to command a huge public audience, as they do at the conventions and the debates (although, they’ll get plenty of attention, of course). Millions of people have already voted. Trump has had a significant advertising deficit, and an even more significant deficit in terms of his turnout operation. He’ll probably spend a significant chunk of the remaining news cycles quarreling over his contention that the election is rigged, and with the numerous women who have accused him of sexual assault. He doesn’t have an obvious — or even a not-so-obvious — path to the presidency.

So we’re left to argue about the probability of an unforeseen event, or a significant polling error. It’s perhaps significant that almost no matter what news has occurred, and there’s been a lot of it — terrorist attacks, mass shootings, foreign crises, her email scandal, the Wikileaks dump, her Sept. 11 health scare — Clinton has almost always led Trump in the polls, although there have certainly been times when the election was close. What if her State Department emails are sitting on one of Julian Assange’s servers? That would be interesting, I suppose. But there are also October (or November) surprises that could work against Trump: more accusations from women, more damaging videotapes, further leaking of his tax records.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-probably-finished-off-trump-last-night/

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538: Clinton Probably Finished Off Trump Last Night (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 OP
I believe the cake is baked. Trump may not lose any more support, stopbush Oct 2016 #1
I certainly hope so. iemitsu Oct 2016 #2
Perplexed that his Now cast triron Oct 2016 #3
His v. her turnout operation will be deciding ffr Oct 2016 #4
It's GREAT NEWS most people believe Hillary will win the election because many napi21 Oct 2016 #5

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
1. I believe the cake is baked. Trump may not lose any more support,
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:31 PM
Oct 2016

but R voter turnout is going to be significantly depressed. Doesn't matter how many supporters you have if they don't vote.

triron

(22,007 posts)
3. Perplexed that his Now cast
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:37 PM
Oct 2016

has fallen about 4% in last few days. Yet at the election consortium hrc is at 99% (highest ever).

ffr

(22,671 posts)
4. His v. her turnout operation will be deciding
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:37 PM
Oct 2016

It'll be up to us to make certain that every voter who is eligible, is heard.

GOTV! Turnout and she'll have a congress that can get things done.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. It's GREAT NEWS most people believe Hillary will win the election because many
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:39 PM
Oct 2016

people will switch to her because, consiously or un-consciously, they want to vote for the winner.

I wonder who the Con is pissed off at today? Love to be the fly on his wall.

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