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Cakes488

(874 posts)
3. LOL I thought the same thing....I thought Melania thinks she is going to talk about her because
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 09:34 PM
Oct 2016

she is 45.

Bette

(65 posts)
4. well, you're right
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 09:49 PM
Oct 2016

She absolutely doesn't get it, or anything else, it seems. She always looks like that, at least lately. I think she really does believe everything he tells her though.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
5. Right from the beginning
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 09:53 PM
Oct 2016

They showed her after a particular remark was made (from the MC perhaps?) and I thought "nope, she's not going to get any of the humor."

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
9. as someone who's taught ESL students
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:41 PM
Oct 2016

I think Melania does miss a lot, probably due to her English not being great. This is not to denigrate her at all since she speaks 4 languages, but "speaking" and conversing are not the same as comprehending.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
15. Agree--I think it's wrong to criticize her for this. As someone who has attempted to learn multiple
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 04:30 PM
Oct 2016

languages, spending MANY hours, I very much admire anyone who can do more than speak and understand the most basic phrases in 2nd, 3rd, etc. language.

It's also a lot harder to do this as an adult than as a child.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
21. And when you live with someone who also doesn't speak English.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 08:24 PM
Oct 2016

My parents were immigrants and spoke 6 languages. They mastered English but then both of them learned to speak it better than Donald and had each other to converse with on a higher plane.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. A person isn't fluent in a language unless he or she can
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:43 PM
Oct 2016

understand jokes that involve word play in that language. And that's a very tough place to get to with a second language.

zenabby

(364 posts)
11. I don't understand this thread...
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:46 PM
Oct 2016

just seems like a mean thread to dump on Melania because she is an immigrant and not fluent in English and is associated with Trump. Not based on any facts since it tries to understand what went inside her head based on OP's judgement of her intellect. Also Melania is 46 not 45 .

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
14. she didn't understand anything either
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 04:14 PM
Oct 2016

that is the point


I will not give her a fuckin' free pass because she is not fluent in English.

She wants to be first lady, she can take the shit like Mrs. Obama


spooky3

(34,456 posts)
16. Criticize her for lying, saying stupid stuff about her husband or his opponent or other relevant
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 04:32 PM
Oct 2016

things--that's fair game. But criticizing her for not speaking a fourth language well enough to "get" certain jokes, when many of us can speak only English, or maybe two languages, strikes me as being "ugly American-ish."

If you've ever spent an extended time in a foreign country, you appreciate how hard it is to gain fluency.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
18. fuck that
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 04:46 PM
Oct 2016

I have spent my whole life being nice and giving the benefit of the doubt. No longer and we can thank W and now tRump for that attitude

She thinks she is entitled because she is mrs. donald gold digger and even went on to cry that her husband was egged on


well fuck her and her golden pony to boot

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. good point. Her spouse, with whom she agrees enough
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 04:33 PM
Oct 2016

to campaign for, and his followers gives no quarter to immigrants not speaking perfect English.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
20. But aren't we as Progressives better than making fun of someone who doesn't
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:38 PM
Oct 2016

understand all the intricacies of their third or fourth language. Give her credit for being able to understand and speak four languages.

If she is out spouting tRumpisms, then she is fair game for those comments and should be called out for those comments.

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