her appearance offended me.

but the dress struck me as a bit much (or maybe not enough) for that sort of gathering.

Hillary Clinton was fashionably dressed though.

They are just breasts put on our chests to feed babies.

Must have been a baby nearby.

(I agree with "breasts" rather than objectifying terms. But I also agree that - given the nature of the event - how she was dressed was not remotely appropriate.)

He's a big cry-baby.

When I inherited my Aunt's "estate", I found a box of white cotton and black leather elbow length gloves. I should see if I can find them, again.

that was in 1993...I recall my mother telling me that the long gloves were called "opera gloves."

I seem to remember wearing them, too, when I was very young. Now I only wear gloves when it's winter, and they definitely are not white cotton.

a very long time ago...

barefoot + 2 elderly ladies came out in skirts & wearing gloves AND hats i think. shocked i was barefoot. it was like seeing an endangered species.

When I started college (North Texas) in 1953, the dean of women spoke to incoming freshman girls, said white gloves were so important that if we didn't have any, we should ask her for a pair. Yeah, sure. I don't remember anything else she said, but I sure remember the white gloves.

We weren't allowed to wears jeans, slacks, and certainly not shorts. If we wanted to leave the campus in pants, we had to roll them up and hide them with a skirt.

But she wore them inappropriately. One should not eat with gloves on. One should not shake hands with gloves on. A formal receiving line does not include hand-shaking, therefore gloves are acceptable in one. Gloves should be worn at a formal affair when dancing, but not when drinking or eating refreshments at the "interval" (band break!). That is why some gloves have buttons at the wrist for partaking of light refreshments. But one does not wear gloves at a sit-down dinner. As my very middle-class mom would have said, "She was poorly-raised if she wore gloves at the dinner table". Plus, she was texting at a formal dinner!!!!! Really bad, even for a Gen X'er. But I loved the dress and the 49-year-old breasts so proudly and beautifully displayed. I wish I would look so good in a plunging red dress! My mom would have when she was 49, though. Just sayin'. But the GLOVES!!

Of course I meant her dangly earrings, what did you think I meant?

somehow were meant to make up for the lack of material on her dress.

she was wiping back tears of laughter during Clinton's jokes.

Col. Morris Davis ?@ColMorrisDavis 2 hours ago
Looks on faces ... particularly @MariaBartiromo's ... reflects repulse at @realDonaldTrump's bile at #AlSmithDinner. @Lawrence @TheLastWord


Waldorf Astoria NY ?@WaldorfNYC 4 hours ago
Live tonight in the Grand Ballroom - #AlSmithDinner #waldorfmoment
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If you were looking for a single group shot that would illustrate "Old, sick, embarrassed white people", this would be the place to come.

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pic who that is on drumpf's right?

I want to figure out what Trump said to do that to his face. Still paused in the video at 1:22. This is more interesting than great cleavage.

Terror!

I guess they knew he was going to lie ....

who the gentleman is (I just promoted him from my previous reference to him as "the guy&quot . He is wearing some other medals as well....

And as Lochloosa points out in another thread (with pic), he seems like a pretty good dude. Er, I mean gentleman...

with Studzinski, but he certainly has an broad and impressive record of philanthropy.

I say, "Look at those earrings"

My husband replies, "I don't see no earrings"

Toward the end, that is.........

given he could barely read this immense print.

I don't often agree with her views, but I thought she looked really beautiful at this event.

I thought she looked great...If I could do that, I would and not care.

What is going on here? I thought this place respected women!

....and very impressive, as she obviously meant it to be from her choice of garments. This grandma has NO problem with any of that, but to avert our eyes from her beautious bounties and pretend that nothing else was going on in that room except a trainwreck with tankers of venom would just be silly.

She meant to be noticed. Both men and women noticed.

I also noticed that the men just behind Trump on either side looked horrified and sick at what he was doing.

(As to my subject line, yours is the 3rd post I've seen tonight scolding DUers for having a bit of fun or snark.)

How are breasts comical?

In this case, horror at what Trump was exposing about himself versus....

Oh never mind.

You know, Sigmund Freud wrote an entire book trying to figure out humor. Perhaps a bit of heavy research could help.

How are breasts comical you ask? How about this:

https://www.thelocal.de/20141028/thief-squirts-her-breast-milk-to-steal-german-pharmacy-darmstadt

to protect, to hold, to caress...


Oh, I got to go now

have written hilarious boob, dick, ass, poop, fart and other bodily jokes over the years. Get over yourself.

What's wrong with body part jokes? Why are they so far beneath you?

Trump's mouth looks like an anus, and i've said so right here on DU. It's just that I'm so sick and tired of seeing a woman referred to as a body part, and then belittled by making jokes about that body part. I don't see that done nearly as much to men as to women. It's that whole objectification thing.

I thought you asked "How are breasts conical?"

Seriously. This shit is not o.k.

The sexism here has been ramping up for weeks. I'm pretty sick of it myself.

whoopied fuckin doo. She's hot. If what she had on bothered them why didn't they turn it off?

I agree with you.

I like to pretend concern with sexism is simply being prudish as well. It let's us trivialize a concern without addressing it in meaningful way. It validates our biases and allows us the pretense of cleverness as well. It's a solid win/win for the likes of us, regardless of the grade school petulance of "whoopied fuckin doo..." we use in place of rational thought.

When somebody posts that "women have body parts," it is a red flag. It to me says the person making the comments THINKS women ARE nothing but a bunch of body parts.

Feminism is not "prudery," and those who try and claim it prove feminists' point about the harms of porn. It has to do with the dehumanization of half of the human race just so the other half can get hard. Women are not body parts to masturbate to. Maria is not a collection of body parts.

Maria's breasts are less the issue than the fact her clothing is grossly inappropriate for a fundraiser of this sort. This low-rent Sophia Loren wannabe should have been sent home.

I like to pretend sexism is everything and thus any comment I disagree with is inherently sexist. It lets me make a mountain out of a molehill without addressing anything meaningful. It validates my bias that everything is sexist and allows me the pretense of being better/smarter than others. It's a solid win/win regardless of how high one's nose has to go up in the air in place of rational thought that my personal definition of sexism might not be everyone's.

Of course that would require reasonableness and the ability to understand you aren't always right. But hey, you got to include some grade school petulance of your own with your needlessly belittling comment.

See how easy that was?

however, you probably wouldn't see that claim being made by liberals on a Democratic website. Especially during a time when sexism is getting a national spotlight.

But hey, fuck the social justice warriors amirite?

Replace the term sexist with racist.

Bet you wouldn't do it.

Men truly are clueless about women and women's rights.

The one poster actually accused critics of being "prudes." This is classic mansplaining trying to tell women to shut up because the person has no argument. This is the 1970s "argument" by those who think porn and prostitution are a-okay by trying to shut women up who say they are not. Never mind the fact women aren't body parts and men have NO right to women's bodies without women's consent. Porn and prostitution are not "consent." The "prude" card is always played by these mostly guys because they think they are entitled to women's bodies, even if that entitlement involves human rights abuse, which both porn and prostitution are.

I have been around quite a few years, and I KNOW how sexist men on the so-called "left" are. In many ways they are worse than those on the right. There are issues like the two I mentioned that are truly non-partisan. Sexism also is non-partisan.

The fact is this guy upthread had NO argument at all. He just tried to shut women up.

We will NOT shut up.

BTW, I am not a "social justice warrior."

she'd put them on, then take them off repeatedly...

texts or twitter-feed, and answering while Trump spoke. Then put gloves on and stopped texting when Hillary came to podium.

In her choice of dress. She hot exactly what she wanted.

at the dinner tonight?

Not gonna criticize a woman for her fashion choices.

It's not a convention of church ladies.

Still not going to question her fashion choice. I thought the dress was daring and beautiful.

some doc will be glad to put them in

I could tell.

My post would be removed, lol

Now at Fox Business, she hosts her show opposite AM Joe and CNN's New Day - and Fox News "curvy couch show."

After jumping ship to a class operation like Fox, I guess she dropped the sexist moniker of "money honey." There is no question she drank the Fox network Kool-Aid. She is as unwatchable as anything else on Fox propaganda networks.

much accepted at those events. However, given the sponsors of the dinner, a little less exposure might have been appropriate.

Still, evening dress is evening dress. Her eyes are up there...

Maria gets to choose her own clothing, I think.

That is what I find interesting.

More likely, seats were assigned beforehand, really. If I were a woman, I probably would have chosen something less revealing for that particular event, but I'm not, and I'm not that particular woman, either.

It's really a matter of indifference for me, in any case.

I couldn't help but look at her most of the time. She looks great, even if her gloves were too big.

Clinton looked great too. I love her in pink. The rhodolite necklace was lovely. Now Madam President needs some rhodolite earrings. Bill, Hillary's birthday is coming up.