2016 Postmortem

book_worm

(15,951 posts) Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:09 AM Oct 2016

Three way race for Utah in new poll

SALT LAKE CITY — Republican Donald Trump has a razor thin edge over independent candidate Evan McMullin in the latest presidential poll of Utah voters.

A UtahPolicy.com survey released Thursday shows Trump with 30 percent, McMullin at 29 percent and Democrat Hillary Clinton getting 25 percent.

The poll by Dan Jones & Associates is among four of the last five polls to have McMullin even with or ahead of Trump in Utah. Clinton has held fairly steady in each of the surveys.

Utah Republicans are divided between Trump and McMullin, with 48 percent backing the billionaire businessman and 37 percent choosing the BYU graduate and former CIA officer.

Among independent voters, Trump falls to third with 20 percent, while McMullin pulls 31 percent and Clinton 27 percent.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865665274/Latest-Utah-poll-gives-Trump-razor-thin-edge-over-McMullin.html?pg=all

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Three way race for Utah in new poll (Original Post) book_worm Oct 2016 OP

Since Hillary would have never won Utah... titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #1

Hillary has to get to 270 oberliner Oct 2016 #2

Well yes titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #3

Understood oberliner Oct 2016 #4

Thank goodness he won't be President titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #5

Policy wise, he's conservative but he's affirmatively opposed to racism geek tragedy Oct 2016 #6

And? LisaL Oct 2016 #8

Of course. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #9

We have three candidates pretty much evenly split. LisaL Oct 2016 #10

She could. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #13

Early turnout numbers look good for democrats in Utah. LisaL Oct 2016 #16

Yes, he is a right-wing conservative who opposes everything Democrats stand for oberliner Oct 2016 #14

Race-relations and police violence are issues. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #19

Hence the words "pretty much" oberliner Oct 2016 #21

How do you know she would never win Utah? LisaL Oct 2016 #7

Because they're not splitting it enough ways, sadly. Lord Magus Oct 2016 #11

But who knows? LisaL Oct 2016 #15

My point is if the vote wasn't split she wouldn't win Utah titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #18

Well, of course she wouldn't win if the vote wasn't split. But it is split. LisaL Oct 2016 #22

Utah sold its souls to cruz. No amount of prayers ever brings back the moral breakdown from Sunlei Oct 2016 #12

Two republicans splitting the vote. LisaL Oct 2016 #17

perhaps 3 republicans would be enough.With 16 Republicans spliting the vote they did get trumped. Sunlei Oct 2016 #20

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)

1. Since Hillary would have never won Utah...

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:18 AM

Oct 2016

we need to have McMullin win and take those electoral votes away from Donald.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

2. Hillary has to get to 270

Reply to titaniumsalute (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:24 AM

Oct 2016

Whether or not Donald or McMuffin wins Utah does not impact that one way or another.

Of course, if Hillary can win Utah, then that would be another story.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)

3. Well yes

Reply to oberliner (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:29 AM

Oct 2016

270 is the magic number. But I don't want Donald to get those regardless. More of an FU to him. I simply want to see a landslide with an amazing amount of low EVs for Drumpf.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

4. Understood

Reply to titaniumsalute (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:30 AM

Oct 2016

Though I would point out that Evan is pretty awful himself.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)

5. Thank goodness he won't be President

Reply to oberliner (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:33 AM

Oct 2016

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

6. Policy wise, he's conservative but he's affirmatively opposed to racism

Reply to oberliner (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 08:58 AM

Oct 2016

and generally presenting a fairly honorable face for the conservative ideology.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

8. And?

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:04 AM

Oct 2016

Since he is only getting those numbers in Utah, he obviously doesn't have a shot at 270.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

9. Of course.

Reply to LisaL (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:06 AM

Oct 2016

Big significance of him winning Utah would be for the upcoming Republican civil war between the wingnut ideologues and the dirtbag racists.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

10. We have three candidates pretty much evenly split.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:07 AM

Oct 2016

I don't understand the idea of trying to get this guy elected instead of trying to get Hillary elected. With two people splitting the republican votes, how do you know she can't squeak in?

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

13. She could.

Reply to LisaL (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:12 AM

Oct 2016

Some folks may be thinking the country would be better off if the GOP repudiated racism.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

16. Early turnout numbers look good for democrats in Utah.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:24 AM

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oberliner

(58,724 posts)

14. Yes, he is a right-wing conservative who opposes everything Democrats stand for

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:13 AM

Oct 2016

On pretty much every issue.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

19. Race-relations and police violence are issues.

Reply to oberliner (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:47 AM

Oct 2016

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

21. Hence the words "pretty much"

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:34 AM

Oct 2016

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

7. How do you know she would never win Utah?

Reply to titaniumsalute (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:03 AM

Oct 2016

With the other two splitting the republican vote?

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)

11. Because they're not splitting it enough ways, sadly.

Reply to LisaL (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:10 AM

Oct 2016

For Hillary to win in right-wing Utah she needs Johnson to also siphon away more Repuke votes.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

15. But who knows?

Reply to Lord Magus (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 21, 2016, 09:19 AM

Oct 2016

Apparently turnout is up in Utah.
"Perhaps most surprisingly, Democrats improved their position in conservative and Mormon-heavy Utah, where recent polls have shown a tight race. At this point in 2012, Republicans led Democrats in early voting by more than 22,000 voters. But so far this year, the GOP advantage is only 3,509."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/21/politics/early-voting-hillary-clinton-battleground-states/