2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum*GASP* Is it possible that Hillary is actually a good candidate?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/opinion/why-hillary-wins.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0
Paul Krugman makes the case.
When political commentators praise political talent, what they seem to have in mind is the ability of a candidate to match one of a very limited set of archetypes: the heroic leader, the back-slapping regular guy youd like to have a beer with, the soaring orator. Mrs. Clinton is none of these things: too wonky, not to mention too female, to be a regular guy, a fairly mediocre speechifier; her prepared zingers tend to fall flat.
Yet the person tens of millions of viewers saw in this falls debates was hugely impressive all the same: self-possessed, almost preternaturally calm under pressure, deeply prepared, clearly in command of policy issues. And she was also working to a strategic plan: Each debate victory looked much bigger after a couple of days, once the implications had time to sink in, than it may have seemed on the night.
Oh, and the strengths she showed in the debates are also strengths that would serve her well as president. Just thought I should mention that. And maybe ordinary citizens noticed the same thing; maybe obvious competence and poise in stressful situations can add up to a kind of star quality, even if it doesnt fit conventional notions of charisma.
Furthermore, theres one thing Mrs. Clinton brought to this campaign that no establishment Republican could have matched: She truly cares about her signature issues, and believes in the solutions shes pushing.
dalton99
(781 posts)Now, Hillary is not going to win if people don't get off their butts and go to the polls.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)Mahalo, Fast Walker!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Does she have weaknesses? Sure. The email server thing was an unforced error. So was not establishing more of a firewall with the CFF. But honestly, these are small potatoes. And frankly, ANY candidate with a long history has some skeletons in their closet when they are investigated in the detail Clinton has been.
But she is a skilled administrator. She knows policy really well. She usually thinks on her feet pretty well. And she is pragmatic. I know that last one irritates the more idealistic among us, but to me, it is an important trait in our political system. She is not the skilled speaker Obama is, but then again, Obama is not as clear-eyed as she is. I think they both benefited from their associations with each other and I can say I am proud of them both.
I think she has done very, very well in the campaign. I think she stumbled around with her email strategy early, but she eventually found her footing. I think she could have been more forthright in her speeches, though I understand why she demured. Her speeches are often full of nuance, and nuance isn't very effective in political campaigns.
But especially as we come to the close of this campaign, she is doing almost everything right. I think that bodes very well for the kind of President she will be. I'm tearing up a bit here. I cried the night President Obama won in 2008. I'm pretty sure this 50-year-old white guy is gonna cry in joy again on Nov 8.
And I hope to Jeebus that our party membership has her back, and understands what she will be facing. Some elements of our coalition failed Obama when he needed them most (not most of the folks here, of course).
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Yes! And she truly understands the issues on a granular level. Been saying.....
What I loved about the last debate is that she was able to answer hard questions, show her passion, but was still in control every single minute. It was a GREAT debate performance. One for the record books, IMO.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)She has been a great candidate and would have beaten anyone from the GOP field this cycle.
Don't forget, Trump crushed a field of 17 in the primaries and Hillary is crushing him.
The one thing she has benefited most from is the Trump campaign tried to paint her as a Hawk and a moderate. Hillary is a hard core Liberal, she's just as far left as Bernie Sanders is and she's barely been called a Liberal all campaign. She's been able to run as a moderate and that was a gift to her. Other than that she has just crushed it. The fainting spell is the only thing that slowed her rout down and that's now a distant memory.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)As shit. And worse it seemed at the time to validate every right wing conspiracy theory about her. It was too weird. But then she's come back and given the three most dominating presidential debate performances I've ever seen in my life.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)Great article.
K & R
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)But she's really grown on me
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I've thought she was a great PERSON for years. Is she perfect? Of course not. Do I agree with her on every issue? No, just as I don't agree with anyone about everything.
She will make a great president!
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)How much more she would be cleaning up.
I suppose we would still have the Russian hacking, but that is easier to deal with.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Would that more liberal pundits, who knew perfectly well that this was true, had seen fit to highlight it from the beginning. Then may the power of the smear campaign could have been mitigated.
"Furthermore, theres one thing Mrs. Clinton brought to this campaign that no establishment Republican could have matched: She truly cares about her signature issues, and believes in the solutions shes pushing."
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)And as I am sure all of you know I got a ton of crap for it from many folks here who are no longer with us.
I also can't tell you how many times I went on shows on conservative media and in the green room before and after my debate opponents would tell me "Well, I can't stand both of our candidates, they are both terrible and I know you feel the same way" and I would say No, I do not feel the same way, I really like Hillary as a person and a candidate. And they would tell me they thought I was BSing them and I would assure them I was not, but they still wouldn't believe me.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Because your post makes zero sense otherwise.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... on her ability to rally people. It's mind boggling how many people don't trust her, one of the most trustworthy people in public life.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)I get so sick of "some" people acting like they can only vote for a Second Coming because to vote for a mere human would soil their purity.
Clinton will surprise everyone with how progressive she is. Anyone who has seen her history without prejudice against her over all of the scandal noise would recognize that already. Genuinely progressive too, not this white-centric economic-exclusive "progressivism" that has spun out of the dark corners of the Left recently. Clinton will work for all of the Democrats' various constituents, not just some.