2016 Postmortem

DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:01 AM Oct 2016

Cardinal Dolan: Trump, Clinton traded jabs at Al Smith Dinner — but it was different in private

Eun Kyung Kim
TODAY

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, blessed with the job of playing peacemaker while sitting between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump during a white tie fundraiser, said the two presidential candidates demonstrated a kindness toward each other rarely seen in public.

While each candidate delivered some biting comments while taking a turn behind the dais at the Al Smith Dinner, "there were some very touching moments" in private, Dolan said, describing one right after he asked both of them to pray with him.

“After the little prayer, Mr. Trump turned to Secretary Clinton and said, ‘You are one tough and talented woman,’” Dolan said. "He said, 'This has been a good experience, this whole campaign, as tough as it’s been.'"

Clinton then returned the compliment.

“She said to him, ‘Donald, whatever happens, we need to work together afterward,’” Dolan said.

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Cardinal Dolan: Trump, Clinton traded jabs at Al Smith Dinner — but it was different in private (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP

Agreed. We need to work together to deport the entire Trump klan. nt onehandle Oct 2016 #1

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"His entire campaign may or may not have been intended to help Bill back into the White House" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #4

You beat me to it.... Lucinda Oct 2016 #18

So I guess you didn't see him looming behind her in the second debate? LisaL Oct 2016 #5

They shook hands at the first debate TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #7

Are you fucking kidding me??? lillypaddle Oct 2016 #11

Beyond ridiculous. nt Codeine Oct 2016 #12

OFCS, how ludicrous can we get? I suppose eight years of obstruction was to help Obama. Coyotl Oct 2016 #13

His entire campaign is based on his narcissism, not collusion with Hillary pnwmom Oct 2016 #16

are you fucking serious? rbrnmw Oct 2016 #19

I don't think so, Ieoeja. They didn't shake because, Hortensis Oct 2016 #20

This is more often the case than one would suspect from the media circus DFW Oct 2016 #3

Happy to think that foes can become allies in working for the greater good vlyons Oct 2016 #8

OMG, don't let Trump supporters know that he has a different private sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #15

I saw something change in him after she spoke last night. I'm curious Lucinda Oct 2016 #17

I dunno...she needs to have food testers present if they are around food.. HipChick Oct 2016 #21

Anyone can change. And he is about to take a massive hit to his ego. Lucinda Oct 2016 #22

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onehandle

(51,122 posts)

1. Agreed. We need to work together to deport the entire Trump klan. nt

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:08 AM

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alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)

4. "His entire campaign may or may not have been intended to help Bill back into the White House"

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:41 AM

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What the fuck?

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)

18. You beat me to it....

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 02:00 PM

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LisaL

(44,973 posts)

5. So I guess you didn't see him looming behind her in the second debate?

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:43 AM

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Or what?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)

7. They shook hands at the first debate

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:50 AM

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But the second debate was after the "grab them by the pussy" tape. That's when she quit shaking his hand.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)

11. Are you fucking kidding me???

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:58 AM

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Codeine

(25,586 posts)

12. Beyond ridiculous. nt

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:02 AM

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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)

13. OFCS, how ludicrous can we get? I suppose eight years of obstruction was to help Obama.

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:06 AM

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Hillary must have deleted that e-mail, where Trump says "I'll run for president so you can win."

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)

16. His entire campaign is based on his narcissism, not collusion with Hillary

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:12 PM

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to get her into the White House.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)

19. are you fucking serious?

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 02:07 PM

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

20. I don't think so, Ieoeja. They didn't shake because,

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 02:12 PM

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on those same days that they didn't, Trump did really dirty anti-Hillary things, and/or tried to, that would have made shaking hands with him entirely inappropriate in any other circumstances. His behavior was inexcusable, way beyond the pale, and her avoiding shaking hands with him reflected that. Her choice, not his.

Frankly, a whole lot of people feel that a respectable presidential candidate should never have had to be on the same stage with a person like that. Bizarre election, very serious weakness of elective government on full display to a shocked world.

DFW

(54,387 posts)

3. This is more often the case than one would suspect from the media circus

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:30 AM

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I've seen this since my time as a Senate Page in 1967. Senators who you wouldn't think would even be on speaking terms hamming it up together when the TV cameras are off. Hell, I'm even friends with Richard Viguerie, and if I hadn't met the guy under controlled circumstances, I probably would have killed him upon being introduced (or he would have done me if he drew first). Washington (probably politics in general) is just like that. At the swearing in party for Claire McCaskill at the Senate in January 2013, Roy Blunt, the far right Republican Senator from Missouri, dropped in to congratulate Claire along with Harry Reid and Al Franken. Weird, but that's reality.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)

8. Happy to think that foes can become allies in working for the greater good

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Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:52 AM

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Although not probable, it's not impossible that Trump could have an epiphany about some of his anger issues and petty jealousies. I'm truly astonished that so many DUers hold such deep grudges against Trump. Yes he is a buffoon, entirely deserving of ridicule and contempt. A character from a Theater of the Absurd. But I truly hope that a President Clinton can demonstrate her generous heart and spirit and reach out a hand of friendship to her foes and critics to inspire us to achieve a higher purpose for the greater good.

I believe that Hillary can do it, and that's why I'm voting for her.