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MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:40 AM Oct 2016

If looks could kill:



This photo from last night's Al Smith dinner pretty much says it all. A homicidal-looking Donald Trump is in the background, with Hillary Clinton shining brightly in the foreground. The difference between the two candidates is drawn so sharply and clearly here that it may be the photo from this campaign that has the longest shelf life.

Trump knows he has already been defeated by Clinton. It enrages him, but his rage is impotent and has no outlet. That's the story of this election. The GOP chose very, very poorly. It shows here. That powerless, enraged man was their choice. Now, they must live with it. The Secret Service should never allow Trump near Hillary. I believe he may be a dangerous risk as Election day draws closer.

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If looks could kill: (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2016 OP
Great photo. liberalmuse Oct 2016 #1
Keep him away from society ~ in a padded cell perhaps! anniebelle Oct 2016 #67
The Al Smith Dinner photo with longest shelf life will be the audience expressions. Coyotl Oct 2016 #2
Those are memorable, too. MineralMan Oct 2016 #8
Maria is jumping back in her chair too, literally taken aback Coyotl Oct 2016 #11
I noticed her facial expression. MineralMan Oct 2016 #12
Jaw drop again, "Hillary believes it is vital to deceive the people ...." Coyotl Oct 2016 #23
I know she's a Republican, but I've always enjoyed MineralMan Oct 2016 #25
She knows she's on camera. It was showtime for her..n/t monmouth4 Oct 2016 #55
Who are the two guys flanking Cheeto Hitler? geardaddy Oct 2016 #49
The man to our left was identified elsewhere as John J. Studzinski pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #54
Thanks! geardaddy Oct 2016 #59
Maybe it's my lack of Y-Chromosome GopherGal Oct 2016 #65
I doubt very much that Trump would try to harm her physically. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #3
I suppose you're right. Still, what's in his mind is clear MineralMan Oct 2016 #5
Definitely a lot of hating going on there. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #9
Yes. Losing to a woman is the biggest blow to his ego. MineralMan Oct 2016 #10
She's also doing what men fear most that a woman would do. WhiteTara Oct 2016 #33
I have no doubt he is lashing out at home. Humiliating his wife publicly is not enough... Hekate Oct 2016 #57
But every other way he'll be on her for the rest of this life based on this other story on here: LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #37
He might be busy elsewhere. He is going to have to deal with two court cases in the next months.... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #44
Herr Revolution Direcktor will be a bit tied up, true wordpix Oct 2016 #48
After the election how soon does he lose Secret Service protection? gordianot Oct 2016 #4
Immediately after the winner is known, I believe. MineralMan Oct 2016 #6
I recall John Kerry saying something like-he went home that night and all was quiet and riversedge Oct 2016 #22
From the look of it, he could just hire some of his ardent followers with all their guns... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #63
I'm going to make a prediction that he will get himself his own security.... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #64
He is a dangerous man. gademocrat7 Oct 2016 #7
He continued to show what he is made of, and he's so damn hateful and pathetic. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2016 #20
Wow! That is epic! You cannot make this up.. Amazing Cha Oct 2016 #13
And the color of her clothing makes her jump out in the MineralMan Oct 2016 #15
Her dress color absolutely Pops! Cha Oct 2016 #24
Absolutely agree. whathehell Oct 2016 #32
The real tell in that picture - Melania Trump sarge43 Oct 2016 #40
I'm feeling sorry for her - she thought she was getting wordpix Oct 2016 #50
Yup. Buyer's remorse. n/t sarge43 Oct 2016 #53
Yes. Very disturbing. And after reading what Richard Branson said about Don-the-Con's vindictive BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #14
He's just upset that he's getting his ass kicked by a woman. book_worm Oct 2016 #16
For Trump, that increases the pain tenfold. MineralMan Oct 2016 #18
He looks like something right out of a horror flick! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2016 #17
Right out of central casting.. this may be doctored a bit.. Cha Oct 2016 #35
Swamp Rat would have a field day with this election cycle ms liberty Oct 2016 #38
Oh that's right.. he would have.. Cha Oct 2016 #42
Miss him too... Pachamama Oct 2016 #70
I wondered last spring how, with his obvious disorder, Hortensis Oct 2016 #19
"He wants to belong." yardwork Oct 2016 #81
Ouch. Watching this one get this far must have been Hortensis Oct 2016 #87
I'm not surprised. The Republicans have been headed this way for a long time. yardwork Oct 2016 #88
I've seen that, too. Just look at their 2016 primary lineup. Hortensis Oct 2016 #89
Donald == Chuckie! longship Oct 2016 #21
LOL! pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #28
Trump is a very grumpy and angry person Gothmog Oct 2016 #26
So it seems. He apparently has no sense of humor. MineralMan Oct 2016 #27
Another one: The mark of professionals sarge43 Oct 2016 #39
GREAT contrast. colors, expressions, the works!! whathehell Oct 2016 #29
"She's laughing. Am I supposed to be laughing, too? Let's see, move my mouth just so... randome Oct 2016 #30
Poor Donald Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #31
Get used to the public shunning Donald cungar2000 Oct 2016 #36
Resting Trump face is horrifying. nolabear Oct 2016 #41
Trump is totally hateful, but he gets others to make hits for him… That I can tell you world wide wally Oct 2016 #43
He has tremendous goons. The best goons, believe me... MineralMan Oct 2016 #52
I watched the crowd after the event was over BainsBane Oct 2016 #45
Agreed. Isolation and enmity. krkaufman Oct 2016 #77
Looks like a badly cast Dracula Maeve Oct 2016 #46
at the end he was standing around with Melania, not talking to anyone wordpix Oct 2016 #47
That really is the look of a serial killer. Emilybemily Oct 2016 #51
And let's not forget THIS has-been! Retired George Oct 2016 #56
The ghoul backed a loser. yardwork Oct 2016 #82
Hillary is having a blast! narnian60 Oct 2016 #58
"Another glass of wine, my lady?" TrollBuster9090 Oct 2016 #60
Carson, without any sense of propriety. Or useful skills. JBoy Oct 2016 #66
Please do not... 3catwoman3 Oct 2016 #74
Yes! Carson's slow to adapt, but when he comes around... VOX Oct 2016 #85
That picture pretty much sums up... nopence2020 Oct 2016 #61
the guy has no business being a leader of ANYTHING, he needs a padded room n/t LSK Oct 2016 #62
I remember reading somewhere that Trump is deeply resentful and angry AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #68
+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #71
That's not surprising. People who are heavily involved in philanthropy MineralMan Oct 2016 #72
As others have noted, tRump is far too cowardly to do the deed himself.... Grammy23 Oct 2016 #69
Yes. His motto is "Let's You and Him Fight!" MineralMan Oct 2016 #73
LOL everyone knows he's lost already IronLionZion Oct 2016 #75
Trump also knows he has lost. He has known it for a while. MineralMan Oct 2016 #79
His damage to the GOP will last a few election cycles hopefully IronLionZion Oct 2016 #86
Lonely krkaufman Oct 2016 #76
Yes. Over the years, Hillary has made many friends at all levels. MineralMan Oct 2016 #78
His first "joke" of the evening lashed out at everyone in the room for abandoning him. yardwork Oct 2016 #83
Thanks. That right there is the Big Difference in their presidential temperaments. One is ancianita Oct 2016 #84
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liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
1. Great photo.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:43 AM
Oct 2016

And I love your commentary beneath it! I agree with that last sentence. Keep him away from Hillary. He's so creepy.

anniebelle

(899 posts)
67. Keep him away from society ~ in a padded cell perhaps!
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:41 AM
Oct 2016

This man is so sick and his illness is so contagious, he should not be allowed to mingle with humanity. I can tell by the people who support him, that it's an insidious, airborne disease, in that it is spread by word of mouth. His minions will destroy not only this country, but the whole world if allowed to gain one ounce of control.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
2. The Al Smith Dinner photo with longest shelf life will be the audience expressions.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:44 AM
Oct 2016




especially when Maria's jaw hit her cleavage and everyone's eyes popped out.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
11. Maria is jumping back in her chair too, literally taken aback
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:51 AM
Oct 2016

You can tell by comparing the cleavage views

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
12. I noticed her facial expression.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:53 AM
Oct 2016

Cleavage is cleavage. It reveals skin. Her face reveals her thoughts. I'm more interested in what she's thinking, frankly.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
25. I know she's a Republican, but I've always enjoyed
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:12 PM
Oct 2016

her facial expressions. She has a very wide range of them. I haven't seen her on TV for sometime. I dropped watching MSNBC pretty much completely.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
54. The man to our left was identified elsewhere as John J. Studzinski
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:41 PM
Oct 2016

He's an American-born British investment banker and philanthropist. He was made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (2008) for his services to the arts and to charity. He's wearing the OBE medal in the photo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Studzinski

h/t petronius, who first posted about the man's identity and the medal.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
65. Maybe it's my lack of Y-Chromosome
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 06:06 PM
Oct 2016

...but to me, the guy to Trump's left is the one who seems to personify the dismay of the audience (especially in the first photo). Has he been identified?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,695 posts)
3. I doubt very much that Trump would try to harm her physically.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:46 AM
Oct 2016

He's a coward who is used to having others do his dirty work. I'm sure the Secret Service is watching things very carefully, though.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
5. I suppose you're right. Still, what's in his mind is clear
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:47 AM
Oct 2016

in that photo. The fist and glare show his feelings unmistakably.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,695 posts)
9. Definitely a lot of hating going on there.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:49 AM
Oct 2016

Trump doesn't like to lose, and he sure doesn't like to lose to a woman.

Too bad, so sad.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
10. Yes. Losing to a woman is the biggest blow to his ego.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:50 AM
Oct 2016

And, since his ego is all he has, the loss is devastating to him. He will lash out in the time remaining. No question about it.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
57. I have no doubt he is lashing out at home. Humiliating his wife publicly is not enough...
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 02:21 PM
Oct 2016

...to either salve his wounded narcissim or to slake his desire for revenge on Hillary. Trump is a scary scary man.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
37. But every other way he'll be on her for the rest of this life based on this other story on here:
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:50 PM
Oct 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141603213

“Even before the starters arrived he began telling me about how he had asked a number of people for help after his latest bankruptcy and how five of them were unwilling to help,” Branson writes. “He told me he was going to spend the rest of his life destroying these five people. He didn’t speak about anything else and I found it very bizarre.”

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
44. He might be busy elsewhere. He is going to have to deal with two court cases in the next months....
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:06 PM
Oct 2016

The fraud of his college, and the rape of a minor.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
48. Herr Revolution Direcktor will be a bit tied up, true
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:20 PM
Oct 2016

Will be hard to get the rev going with all those court filings

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
4. After the election how soon does he lose Secret Service protection?
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:47 AM
Oct 2016

He will have to revert to paid thugs.

riversedge

(70,221 posts)
22. I recall John Kerry saying something like-he went home that night and all was quiet and
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
Oct 2016

dark--no one around -no secret service-the house was quiet. I think you are right.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
63. From the look of it, he could just hire some of his ardent followers with all their guns...
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 05:47 PM
Oct 2016

...and survivalist gear. I'm sure they're willing to work cheap. Maybe even for fried chicken and taco bowls. Alternately, he could go back to the motorcycle gang that strong-armed the RNC. I wonder how long time republicans felts about that. RNC as Altamont.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
64. I'm going to make a prediction that he will get himself his own security....
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 05:55 PM
Oct 2016

...maybe some of these followers with their guns, have them dress like secret service with Walkie-talkies and glasses and jacket, and start acting like he *IS* the president of the U.S. He'll claim that the election was rigged, he really won, and so he's really president. And he'll go around with all the pomp and circumstance of his imagined presidency.

I might be wrong there, but it'd be just like him, wouldn't it? He's long been off the rails, and is only steps away from that sort of total delusion land. Complete with delusional followers who will back him up in it.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
13. Wow! That is epic! You cannot make this up.. Amazing
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:53 AM
Oct 2016

shot of Hillary laughing with someone she's shaking hands with and drumpf knowing he blew it and looking to blame Hillary.



Well said, MineralMan.. I agree, keep him the hell away from her

She looked so good in her hot pink dress.



MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
15. And the color of her clothing makes her jump out in the
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:55 AM
Oct 2016

image. She couldn't have chosen better for that event, with all those men in their evening dress. The photographer did a wonderful job of capturing the exact moment when the contrast was greatest.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
24. Her dress color absolutely Pops!
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:11 PM
Oct 2016

I've noticed Hillary has a gift for choosing the right color for the occasion.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
32. Absolutely agree.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:25 PM
Oct 2016

The color is beautiful and fits her great looks and dynamic energy! Getting more excited about her presidency by the day!

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
40. The real tell in that picture - Melania Trump
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:57 PM
Oct 2016

She has to be thinking that it will be a living hell in the tower tonight; he'll be throwing a shit fit.

Hope it was worth the money, Honey.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
50. I'm feeling sorry for her - she thought she was getting
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:25 PM
Oct 2016

a rich handsome, debonair developer in the top echelons of NY society. Instead her prince turned into fat Cheetoman with a bad temper who's a sex offender and fraud, and probably has no money or won't soon, once he's paying attorney fees as these court claims keep coming. And besides that, he's shunned by NY society instead of beloved.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. Yes. Very disturbing. And after reading what Richard Branson said about Don-the-Con's vindictive
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:55 AM
Oct 2016

streak, I truly believe that he really wished that looks could kill.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. I wondered last spring how, with his obvious disorder,
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:03 PM
Oct 2016

he would take the extreme stresses and knocks of campaigning, and loss. How badly and just plain how would he manifest? The how has been very interesting to watch and the "how badly" a constant series of disasters not worse than I guessed, but not better.

The poor schmuck was unsure whether to stand or sit as the crowd gave her a standing ovation last night, and apparently a lip reader reported that he muttered that she did a good job. He wants to belong.

As for being dangerous to Hillary, I would never sit her next to him at a table, even though she normally wears pants. In any case, they won't be in the same place after this.

yardwork

(61,611 posts)
81. "He wants to belong."
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:04 AM
Oct 2016

I have personal familiarity with people with personality disorders - unfortunately - and the underlying cause of all their boorish, infuriating, self-destructing behavior is a deep sense of inadequacy. Donald feels that he is a failure on all levels. His narcissism is a cover for self loathing and despair. It makes him very dangerous. He can't admit it to himself so he can't fix it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
87. Ouch. Watching this one get this far must have been
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:45 PM
Oct 2016

particularly shocking and frustrating for you. Let's hope that after this a much larger proportion of Americans has some understanding that personality disorders are real and disabling.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
89. I've seen that, too. Just look at their 2016 primary lineup.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 01:45 PM
Oct 2016

At least a couple are almost certainly clinically diagnosable and several others show "traits of" whatever, as psychologists say.

Super-rich conservatives have teamed with the impassioned social/religious right to elect Republicans who are much farther right than the typical Republican, and my impression again and again has been that the far right (and far left) produce a lot of people who are not fit for office or to be trusted with power anywhere, but especially in a republic.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
28. LOL!
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:17 PM
Oct 2016

On a promotional tour for one of the movies, 'Chucky' was doing media interviews. I remember him being quoted as saying that before he took up acting he was a supermodel. But he gave it up because it was just so shallow and unfulfilling.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
27. So it seems. He apparently has no sense of humor.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:15 PM
Oct 2016

That's a serious fault in a public person. As my father said to me many years ago, "Always be ready to laugh at yourself. If you don't, others will do it for you."

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
29. GREAT contrast. colors, expressions, the works!!
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:21 PM
Oct 2016

She looks great ...I'm getting more excited about a Hillary presidency by the day!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
30. "She's laughing. Am I supposed to be laughing, too? Let's see, move my mouth just so...
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:24 PM
Oct 2016

...no, it's not working. How does she DO that?"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
31. Poor Donald
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:25 PM
Oct 2016

I suspect he never "fit in" anywhere ever. All that money never bought him any friends and so he steams and stews and plots against those who have empathy, compassion, friends, and a sense of humor.

 

cungar2000

(98 posts)
36. Get used to the public shunning Donald
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 12:47 PM
Oct 2016

It's your future. All those fancy places you used to frequent are suddenly going to be out of tables. People are going to start leaving when you show up. You are a pariah.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
45. I watched the crowd after the event was over
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:06 PM
Oct 2016

People lined up to speak to Clinton. A couple of people shook Trump's hand, but far fewer than Clinton's. While attendees continued to line up to congratulate Clinton, Trump made his way out of the room.

Now I expect part of this is that they know Clinton will be the next president, and success has a way of attracting people. I also expect, however, that some of it was revulsion for his campaign and his comments at the dinner.

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
77. Agreed. Isolation and enmity.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:49 AM
Oct 2016

Agreed, I saw the same thing.

But I expect the difference in attention paid to each candidate after the dinner may also relate to their past actions and experiences with those in attendance. Hillary's been in public service for years and was Senator from New York, while Donald has made a living out of cheating others and exacting revenge on anyone who he perceives as having wronged or even challenged him. PBS Frontline's 'The Choice 2016' provided some good insight into Trump's approach to business that explains why he has so little support from his past business partners or his workers.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
46. Looks like a badly cast Dracula
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:12 PM
Oct 2016

And she knows there was garlic on the salad so he can go suck...something else.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
47. at the end he was standing around with Melania, not talking to anyone
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 01:17 PM
Oct 2016

Finally Drumpf initiated a couple of handshakes; then he/Melania left as no one said goodbye. If he weren't such a dangerous ass I would feel sorry for him.

Meanwhile, Hillary was going around to each person, meeting and greeting. Not sure when she left but she was still shaking hands and greeting when cameras moved on to MSNBC anchors.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
85. Yes! Carson's slow to adapt, but when he comes around...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:40 AM
Oct 2016

He's rather noble and all heart! (He also carries the "institutional knowledge" of the whole shebang.) Doesn't suffer fools, either.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
68. I remember reading somewhere that Trump is deeply resentful and angry
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:49 AM
Oct 2016

That the Uber mega rich crowd of NYC have never fully accepted him. I think it was Bloomberg (don't quote me. I am not 100 % sure), said that part of it was because Trump sucked at giving. To run with that crowd you have to donate a respectable amount. It makes sense. If You have billions and you only donate 7 million dollars (I think that was how much he donated), that is really cheap.

So it doesn't surprise me that not a whole lot of people @ that dinner went up to say speak to him. With that as the background and the current election status in the foreground, it is no wonder he looks the way he does.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
72. That's not surprising. People who are heavily involved in philanthropy
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:19 AM
Oct 2016

and who make large donations are justifiably suspicious of those who want to be hangers-on without material participation.

Trump isn't a philanthropist at all. He only gives money where it will benefit him financially. Pretenders in that social circle are routinely rejected by that circle.

Trump is a pretender in every way, and is quickly recognized by those who are not.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
69. As others have noted, tRump is far too cowardly to do the deed himself....
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:56 AM
Oct 2016

no matter how enraged he is about this whole situation that HE (and HE alone) created. What is MORE likely is one of his followers would be thrilled to serve their master by taking her out. The Secret Service has their hands full now and in the coming days as this crazy cluster f*%# of an election comes to a close. He has already spread the seeds of hate and revenge...now all he has to do is sit back and wait for one of his deplorables to do the dirty work for him. God, I despise this man and what he has done to our country!

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
73. Yes. His motto is "Let's You and Him Fight!"
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:21 AM
Oct 2016

Like many cowardly bullies, he incites things but does not directly participate in them. We saw that during his primary rallies, where he encouraged his supporters to attack those who protested against him.

The Secret Service knows its job, and will do it. They're on this. You're not going to see Hillary walking through crowds or any other such exposures. She's well protected, I think.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
75. LOL everyone knows he's lost already
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:42 AM
Oct 2016

I love it! I mainly love that so many new voters registered just to vote against him. He's good for democracy!

Donny's jokes mainly fell flat and seems fake. But Hillary had some great zingers during that dinner. The whole thing is up on youtube.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
79. Trump also knows he has lost. He has known it for a while.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:55 AM
Oct 2016

He is simply defeated and is striking out aimlessly now. In his rage, he will damage as many people as he can on the way down. He is a mean-spirited bully, and always has been.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
86. His damage to the GOP will last a few election cycles hopefully
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:13 PM
Oct 2016

the impact will be felt in congressional races across the country.

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
76. Lonely
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:43 AM
Oct 2016

I also noticed from the video that Hillary had many people coming up to speak to/with her, but very little of the same for Donald. More isolation and rejection from the elite Manhattanites from whom he's sought acceptance for so long.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
78. Yes. Over the years, Hillary has made many friends at all levels.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:53 AM
Oct 2016

Donald Trump, on the other hand, has made enemies. He has also exposed himself for who he is, leading others to simply disregard him. That is the reason for the difference in response from people attending the Al Smith dinner. Nobody really cares to know Donald Trump.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
84. Thanks. That right there is the Big Difference in their presidential temperaments. One is
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:30 AM
Oct 2016

a leader; the other a contemptuous, spiteful, frozen control freak.

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