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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:09 PM Oct 2016

Reid talked w/ top NatSec officials and Comey “has explosive information” about Trump and Russia

According to Huff Post's Senior Politics Editor Sam Stein...

Reid says he's talked w/ top NatSec officials who say that Comey “possesses explosive information” about Trump’s ties to Russia

https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/792845597506101248

I have a feeling, something is coming.....

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Reid talked w/ top NatSec officials and Comey “has explosive information” about Trump and Russia (Original Post) sunonmars Oct 2016 OP
Love it semby2 Oct 2016 #1
Why not, free for all, Trump is throwing all sorts of crap about, why not, go for it. sunonmars Oct 2016 #3
me, too, I love Democratic aggression like Reid's recent punch wordpix Oct 2016 #53
If Comey has it, it's as good as in a vault. LisaL Oct 2016 #2
but, but, if Comey said anything about it, wouldn't that be a Hatch Act violation, and..... ummmmmm still_one Oct 2016 #4
I doubt it... chillfactor Oct 2016 #5
if Comey wants to withhold Trump info while fanning flames of wordpix Oct 2016 #57
If he does, how can he release it? meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #6
well as Comey set a precedent i suppose.....muddies the waters.... sunonmars Oct 2016 #9
Exactly. Whether it is true or not, Harry is going to rile up the sense of injustice amongst OnDoutside Oct 2016 #20
If Comey wants to play the innuendo game, bring it on. Go Harry. BlueStreak Oct 2016 #24
Yep, it's like a chess move. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #27
chess is a war game of old - when to move, how to see the Big Picture wordpix Oct 2016 #63
Kick that! RiverStone Oct 2016 #33
Preference for lies to truths is seriously weakening our democracy. Hortensis Oct 2016 #39
If the FBI Director is putting out utter innuendo 10 days before the GE, and doesn't have to answer OnDoutside Oct 2016 #50
I'll miss Harry meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #59
this is the first time in a long time I'm proud of Reid wordpix Oct 2016 #60
It's not just what he knew DK504 Oct 2016 #46
I see Comey resigning next year bluestateguy Oct 2016 #7
Maybe Lefthacker Oct 2016 #8
Hahaha good man, Harry !!! He's like a terrier snapping at your heels :) OnDoutside Oct 2016 #10
Like my Jack Russell Auntie Bush Oct 2016 #61
Is it possible he revealed the new email stuff so he looks fair when he releases damaging Trump info cyberswede Oct 2016 #11
No. LisaL Oct 2016 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #18
That's what I'm hoping is going on here. Avalux Oct 2016 #19
That's wishful thinking. There are only 8 days left BlueStreak Oct 2016 #30
then he played his move stupidly--should have done these together wordpix Oct 2016 #66
Comey: yallerdawg Oct 2016 #12
Well, that's one way for Comey to partially redeem himself. Dirty up everyone then go napi21 Oct 2016 #15
he should release the Trump info as well to be fair. Period wordpix Oct 2016 #69
And Comey will release it…in January. regnaD kciN Oct 2016 #16
I hope Loretta Lynch is typing up a letter of her own right now wordpix Oct 2016 #70
As pointed out by Painter in NYTimes Op Ed... pat_k Oct 2016 #21
civil rights violation: unequal treatment of a female candidate wordpix Oct 2016 #71
Interesting...Thankie! Lucinda Oct 2016 #22
I am wondering how reid came across this info bushisanidiot Oct 2016 #23
How many years of tax returns did Romney release? greymattermom Oct 2016 #25
You're missing the point. The FBI won't confirm or deny this, so that can be played up on the OnDoutside Oct 2016 #29
And that our own justice dept is helping Russia get away with hacking... bettyellen Oct 2016 #36
No, there's no evidence to say that. The issue is that Comey should never have discussed OnDoutside Oct 2016 #44
Any delay is helping the Russians in my book. YMMV. bettyellen Oct 2016 #47
exactly. reid has been around and long time and knows how to play the game. n/t luvmybluestate Oct 2016 #68
Ok i get it now. bushisanidiot Oct 2016 #73
Deep Throat Rises, the sequel wordpix Oct 2016 #72
At least it changes the focus back to Trump whose connections are more troubling than Clinton emails wishstar Oct 2016 #26
Joy has just mentioned Comey updating Clinton issues but nothing about Trump and Russia OnDoutside Oct 2016 #28
Comey would never dump on Trump, he would not want to be accused of influencing the election BlueStateLib Oct 2016 #31
I think we are talking LEAKS to the press. That is what people defending Comey say skylucy Oct 2016 #58
you're probably right, Reid is signaling it's OK for FBI to release wordpix Oct 2016 #78
One can only hope. There's a lot that hasn't been released about Trump AND Manafort and Russia. George II Oct 2016 #34
unequal treatment: Comey speculation about HRC emails v. no word about RussiaTrump wordpix Oct 2016 #82
"I did not have sexual relations with that man, Mr. Putin" - Trump Rocknrule Oct 2016 #35
Regardless of what Comey has, it can't be believed at this point SwankyXomb Oct 2016 #37
Too close to an election to release info like that budkin Oct 2016 #41
Unless its information about Hillary Clinton. LisaL Oct 2016 #43
Exactly budkin Oct 2016 #45
"Against policy"?! For a US Gov employee, like Comey, yes. But Duppers Oct 2016 #48
so Reid is getting out the info, in his own way. Great move, Harry! wordpix Oct 2016 #83
I wonder if this is the Kurt Eichenwald story coming in Newsweek tomorrow? nt TeamPooka Oct 2016 #42
Eichenwald clearly stated that he wrote his latest story BEFORE the Comey thing happened, so it scarletwoman Oct 2016 #51
What do Trumps potential ties to Russia have to do with Comey's thing? LisaL Oct 2016 #52
I posted too quickly, then edited. scarletwoman Oct 2016 #55
answer here wordpix Oct 2016 #84
I think that means it's related to Comey specifically and could be it because of that TeamPooka Oct 2016 #62
A lot of people are saying that maybe mobeau69 Oct 2016 #64
I can only imagine how many he funded wordpix Oct 2016 #85
Blackmail of some kind? Auntie Bush Oct 2016 #56
none of this matters. those who are for trump will remain so. the stupid luvmybluestate Oct 2016 #65
Still, I want dumpf's Russian activities out in public, BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #80
"right thick" is a good way to put it wordpix Oct 2016 #86
If he doesn't release it, then it is worthless. liberal N proud Oct 2016 #76
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wordpix

(18,652 posts)
53. me, too, I love Democratic aggression like Reid's recent punch
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:26 PM
Oct 2016

He finally showed he knows how to land one

still_one

(92,381 posts)
4. but, but, if Comey said anything about it, wouldn't that be a Hatch Act violation, and..... ummmmmm
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:12 PM
Oct 2016

maybe their is a clause in the Hatch Act, only release information that may hurt the Democrats


chillfactor

(7,582 posts)
5. I doubt it...
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:13 PM
Oct 2016

there is such a thing as "leaks"..and I am sure not everyone in the FBI is happy with comey's dirty tricks.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
57. if Comey wants to withhold Trump info while fanning flames of
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:30 PM
Oct 2016

anti-Hillary propaganda using speculation (not facts) right before the election, Obama needs to settle this down by invoking his Commander in Chief credential. Whatever happens, Comey is now under the spotlight for election tampering against warnings by DOJ about election protocol.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
6. If he does, how can he release it?
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:13 PM
Oct 2016

There are already complaints being filed against him for violating the Hatch act with the email letter.

Can't see it happening even if the FBI has something.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
9. well as Comey set a precedent i suppose.....muddies the waters....
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:14 PM
Oct 2016

Reid is throwing the grenade into the room.......

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
20. Exactly. Whether it is true or not, Harry is going to rile up the sense of injustice amongst
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:21 PM
Oct 2016

Democratic voters to GOTV, plus it hugely ramps up the pressure on Comey "You can release this vague statement on Clinton, yet you say nothing about what you have on Trump re Russia".

Well played Sir

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
63. chess is a war game of old - when to move, how to see the Big Picture
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:38 PM
Oct 2016

how to improve when you lose, etc. Reid did great, I hope he keeps it up

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. Preference for lies to truths is seriously weakening our democracy.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:32 PM
Oct 2016

Let's hope Reid is telling the truth and castigate him if he is not.

Voters need an ALTERNATIVE to the moral and intellectual corruption that's taken over the Republican Party, not a copy.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
50. If the FBI Director is putting out utter innuendo 10 days before the GE, and doesn't have to answer
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:13 PM
Oct 2016

for it, he has to be smoked out. Harry's letter does just that. Comey cannot ignore that letter, it's a classic "he's goosed no matter which way he replies".

Considering the influence of Russia in Trump's favour as well as the Black ops from the Alt Right/Republicans, I think we can dispense with the Pollyanna outlook for the last 10 days. It is TOO damn important.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
11. Is it possible he revealed the new email stuff so he looks fair when he releases damaging Trump info
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:15 PM
Oct 2016

Maybe?

Response to LisaL (Reply #14)

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
19. That's what I'm hoping is going on here.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:20 PM
Oct 2016

Comey is a smart man. He's director of the FBI and has to navigate horrendous political waters. I'm not really defending him, just think there's a lot more to this and it may not be as it appears. If he has the goods on Donald and Russia and intends to make that public, this was the perfect setup.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
30. That's wishful thinking. There are only 8 days left
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:58 PM
Oct 2016

if this were some shrewd setup to expose Trump's Russia connections, Comey would have put this in motion 3 weeks ago at the latest. Many millions have already voted, including me.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
12. Comey:
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:15 PM
Oct 2016

"First, I knock the fire out of Hillary. Trump praises. Republicans all happy.

Now I have to end the Trump campaign. I have precedent."

napi21

(45,806 posts)
15. Well, that's one way for Comey to partially redeem himself. Dirty up everyone then go
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:16 PM
Oct 2016

hide until after the election.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
69. he should release the Trump info as well to be fair. Period
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:45 PM
Oct 2016

Nothing else need be said to the uninformed if they spout off

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
16. And Comey will release it…in January.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:16 PM
Oct 2016

Just in time for President-Elect Trump to have to step down under threat of impeachment, handing the White House to President Mike Pence.


wordpix

(18,652 posts)
70. I hope Loretta Lynch is typing up a letter of her own right now
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:47 PM
Oct 2016

Telling Comey that now he's tainted the election, he needs to provide the Trump info to the public, in the interest of fairness, the right to know and the public good.

Go, Loretta. Type the letter.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
21. As pointed out by Painter in NYTimes Op Ed...
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:29 PM
Oct 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opinion/on-clinton-emails-did-the-fbi-director-abuse-his-power.html

The F.B.I. is currently investigating the hacking of Americans’ computers by foreign governments. Russia is a prime suspect.

Imagine a possible connection between a candidate for president in the United States and the Russian computer hacking. Imagine the candidate has business dealings in Russia, and has publicly encouraged the Russians to hack the email of his opponent and her associates.

It would not be surprising for the F.B.I. to include this candidate and his campaign staff in its confidential investigation of Russian computer hacking.

But it would be highly improper, and an abuse of power, for the F.B.I. to conduct such an investigation in the public eye, particularly on the eve of the election. It would be an abuse of power for the director of the F.B.I., absent compelling circumstances, to notify members of Congress from the party opposing the candidate that the candidate or his associates were under investigation. It would be an abuse of power if F.B.I. agents went so far as to obtain a search warrant and raid the candidate’s office tower, hauling out boxes of documents and computers in front of television cameras.

The F.B.I.’s job is to investigate, not to influence the outcome of an election.

Such acts could also be prohibited under the Hatch Act, which bars the use of an official position to influence an election. That is why the F.B.I. presumably would keep those aspects of an investigation confidential until after the election.


Painter undoubtedly knows "insiders." Could he have information that, in contrast to what they are doing with Clinton, the FBI decided to keep investigation of Trump in relation to the hacking "under wraps"?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
71. civil rights violation: unequal treatment of a female candidate
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:56 PM
Oct 2016

Comey should have given equal weight/public info re: Trump investigation status at same time he speculated about Hillary's emails. Provide a little equal treatment, Director, or you may have a civil rights violation for unequal treatment of a female candidate

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
23. I am wondering how reid came across this info
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:32 PM
Oct 2016

And the ONLY reason i am skeptical is because he insisted in 2012 he knew for a fact that romney paid no taxes but he didnt back it up with proof. We all were counting on him coming through with evidence. Anyway, i have my fingers crossed that he isnt going out on a limb on something that isnt going to happen.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
25. How many years of tax returns did Romney release?
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:37 PM
Oct 2016

Maybe two?
I always thought Harry Reid was right and that Romney didn't release all of his returns for a reason.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
29. You're missing the point. The FBI won't confirm or deny this, so that can be played up on the
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:49 PM
Oct 2016

Democratic side that they are only updating the public on Clinton, but not Trump. Consequently showing utter bias against Hillary. It doesn't matter whether it's true or not !

It's like the old one of "When did you first start beating your wife ?"

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
44. No, there's no evidence to say that. The issue is that Comey should never have discussed
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:51 PM
Oct 2016

the email case publicly, last July. HE broke from precedent and the results are now coming back to haunt him.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
73. Ok i get it now.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:00 PM
Oct 2016

I only saw the tweet when I commented,but i have now read Reids full letter to comey so it makes more sense.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
26. At least it changes the focus back to Trump whose connections are more troubling than Clinton emails
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:42 PM
Oct 2016

Rather or not Reid is bluffing, we know there ARE troubling connections between Trump and some of his advisors and Russia that are almost certainly surfacing as part of the Russian hacking investigations by intelligence community

skylucy

(3,740 posts)
58. I think we are talking LEAKS to the press. That is what people defending Comey say
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:31 PM
Oct 2016

would have happened if he hadn't put out the letter. So Reid is putting Comey on notice that he had better be ready for leaks from the FBI about the investigation of Trump's ties to Russia. After all, the public has the right to know...using Comey's own words.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
78. you're probably right, Reid is signaling it's OK for FBI to release
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:13 PM
Oct 2016

and I'm sure some FBI people are PO'd that they warned Comey and he would not follow the advice of staying on the established course of the Hatch Act. He's gone rogue with Sarah Palin.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
82. unequal treatment: Comey speculation about HRC emails v. no word about RussiaTrump
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:21 PM
Oct 2016

after being told by DOJ and his own staff not to talk about Weiner's computer and a maybe-iffy link to HRC's server, Comey ignores them all. So now he's violated the Hatch Act.

I'm expecting a backlash/mutiny at FBI on Monday.

Mon. am the shit hits the fan with Comey in the middle defending his repuglican unequal treatment values.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
37. Regardless of what Comey has, it can't be believed at this point
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:29 PM
Oct 2016

He's as tainted as Flint tapwater, and that may have been the point of this weekend.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
48. "Against policy"?! For a US Gov employee, like Comey, yes. But
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:02 PM
Oct 2016


NOT for an elected official.

Reid is elected and not subjected to the Hatch Act, as Civil Servants are.




scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
51. Eichenwald clearly stated that he wrote his latest story BEFORE the Comey thing happened, so it
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:22 PM
Oct 2016

seems unlikely.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
55. I posted too quickly, then edited.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:29 PM
Oct 2016

I think it may be unlikely because Comey wasn't a focus until Friday, so the story wouldn't be about Comey sitting on information. If it's information about Trump's Russian ties, that would be great.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
84. answer here
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:45 PM
Oct 2016

We are comparing Comey's treatment of Hillary vs. Trump and the issue boils down to unequal treatment of the candidates by a government official (Comey), and biased actions to sway an election is a violation of federal law, the Hatch Act. In Hillary's case, Comey publicized the FBI email find on Weiner's computer, stating this accidental find may have something to do with HRC's email server-closed investigation. Comey said he didn't know more, but he just wanted Congress to be informed.

Meanwhile, there is FBI info about Trump's ties to Russia, and Comey has said nothing about that publicly. Put the dots together and it appears Comey is deliberately trying to sway voters by speculating about Weiner's computer/Hillary server links while saying nothing about Trump's ties to Russia.

Pooty poot and Trump, what a duo they will be if Trump wins.

mobeau69

(11,156 posts)
64. A lot of people are saying that maybe
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:38 PM
Oct 2016

he's got evidence that tRump funded an abortion for one of his sexual conquests. I don't know but a lot of people are saying that.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
85. I can only imagine how many he funded
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:49 PM
Oct 2016

ugh, disgusting thought of Trump raping Jane Doe at 13 years old. And I believe the woman. Her claim is so detailed in the court filings, down to Trump's threat she might disappear like "Maria," another girl age 12 who was at two of the four parties. Maria didn't make it to the last two parties, according to Jane Doe. What happened to her? What does Trump know about her disappearance?

luvmybluestate

(54 posts)
65. none of this matters. those who are for trump will remain so. the stupid
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:39 PM
Oct 2016

among rethugs is right thick this cycle

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
80. Still, I want dumpf's Russian activities out in public,
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:13 PM
Oct 2016

So that we all can wave the piles of evidence of his scumminess in the stupidass's faces.

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