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Related: About this forumdKos Elections: sorry, no "tightening" plus one-fifth of electorate has already voted.
Daily Kos Elections 2016: No, sorry, no "tightening" here (at least not yet)By David Jarman Oct 31, 2016
Youve probably already ODd on reading about Fridays cryptic Comey memo, which re-opened the e-mail can of worms (if only to reveal the can was empty), from every legal and messaging angle. I don't have anything to add about it from those perspectives, so Ill just stay in my lane here and answer the questions about what does this do to the polls?!? Its a pretty simple answer, though: nothing so far. The Daily Kos Elections model is still holding steady in the mid-90s, currently giving Hillary Clinton 96 percent odds of victory according to Mondays numbers.
It shouldn't be hard to see why: a) many people simply havent heard the story (believe it or not, most people dont follow the news as obsessively as your average Daily Kos reader), focusing instead on football or on earning enough money to survive or simply having a life on the weekend; b) many people whove heard the story just walked away from it with more question marks than they before; and most importantly c) thanks to the intense levels of political polarization in todays society, most people who fully digested the story already made up their minds long ago, and what few truly undecided swing voters still remain are more likely to be making their last-minute decisions based on their own personal economic situations or the ol have a beer with test, instead of the baffling sequel to a story that was highly-technical and boring the first time around.
(Theres also: d) 21 million people have already voted, which well discuss in more detail shortly. And while the early voters are probably the most hardcore partisans of the electorate, the ones least likely to be swayed by a story like this, thats still possibly 1/5th of the electorate ... is already locked in.)[center]
GOTV. Let's win Ohio, Arizona, Georgia, and Iowa too!
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dKos Elections: sorry, no "tightening" plus one-fifth of electorate has already voted. (Original Post)
Coyotl
Oct 2016
OP
Get Ready for Another Swing in the Polls, but Not Necessarily a Shift in the Race
Coyotl
Oct 2016
#2
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)1. Great tweet yesterday:
Kaivan 🇺🇸10 days ?@KaivanShroff
Republicans are working to rehash a non-story on #hillarysemail.
Democrats are working to get out the vote.
Think about that for a second.
Republicans are working to rehash a non-story on #hillarysemail.
Democrats are working to get out the vote.
Think about that for a second.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)4. A.W.E.S.O.M.E. !.!.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)2. Get Ready for Another Swing in the Polls, but Not Necessarily a Shift in the Race
Get Ready for Another Swing in the Polls, but Not Necessarily a Shift in the Race
There is no way to predict how the polls will react to the news that the F.B.I. found an email cache that has prompted another look into Hillary Clintons email practices. We wont know for a few days.
But as we wait for more data, its worth remembering all of the big news events this year, and what came of them: Many moved the polls, but none fundamentally reshaped the race.
.............
Just a few weeks ago, it was considered a distinct possibility that the video of Mr. Trump, the subsequent allegations against him and the quick abandonment of some Republican officials could open the door to a landslide, dragging down not just Mr. Trump but also the entire Republican Party. Indeed, the polls shortly thereafter showed Mrs. Clinton taking a considerable lead.
Yet here we are, again in a somewhat tighter contest and prepared for yet another swing in the polls.
The polls this year have followed a pretty consistent pattern. Mrs. Clintons lead has bobbed up and down between two and eight percentage points, depending on the latest news.....
There is no way to predict how the polls will react to the news that the F.B.I. found an email cache that has prompted another look into Hillary Clintons email practices. We wont know for a few days.
But as we wait for more data, its worth remembering all of the big news events this year, and what came of them: Many moved the polls, but none fundamentally reshaped the race.
.............
Just a few weeks ago, it was considered a distinct possibility that the video of Mr. Trump, the subsequent allegations against him and the quick abandonment of some Republican officials could open the door to a landslide, dragging down not just Mr. Trump but also the entire Republican Party. Indeed, the polls shortly thereafter showed Mrs. Clinton taking a considerable lead.
Yet here we are, again in a somewhat tighter contest and prepared for yet another swing in the polls.
The polls this year have followed a pretty consistent pattern. Mrs. Clintons lead has bobbed up and down between two and eight percentage points, depending on the latest news.....
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)3. Presidential Election Polls for October 31, 2016
Presidential Election Polls for October 31, 2016
By Lucy Westcott On 10/31/16 at 10:37 AM
By Lucy Westcott On 10/31/16 at 10:37 AM
Cha
(297,665 posts)5. Gracias, Coyotl
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)6. Clinton 47 Trump 41 — NBC|SurveyMonkey tracking poll 10/24-30
Bradd Jaffy @BraddJaffy 1:00 PM - 31 Oct 2016
NEWNBC|SurveyMonkey tracking poll 10/24-30
Clinton 47
Trump 41
Johnson 6
Stein 3
Pre-Comey M-F
HC 47
DT 41
Post-Comey Sat/Sun
HC 47
DT 41
NEWNBC|SurveyMonkey tracking poll 10/24-30
Clinton 47
Trump 41
Johnson 6
Stein 3
Pre-Comey M-F
HC 47
DT 41
Post-Comey Sat/Sun
HC 47
DT 41
Poll: Clinton Maintains National Lead Over Trump Despite FBI Letter
by Hannah Hartig, John Lapinski and Stephanie Psyllos
Hillary Clinton's 6-point national lead over Donald Trump remains virtually unchanged since last week, even after FBI Director James Comey announced the discovery of emails that could be "pertinent" to the investigation of Clinton's use of a private email server.
The NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll showed Clinton with a 6-point lead over Trump in the days prior to the Comey news. When looking at the data for Saturday and Sunday only, her lead remained the same 47 percent to Trump's 41 percent. The poll was conducted online from October 24 through October 30. Questions about Comey's announcement were included on October 29 and October 30.
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by Hannah Hartig, John Lapinski and Stephanie Psyllos
Hillary Clinton's 6-point national lead over Donald Trump remains virtually unchanged since last week, even after FBI Director James Comey announced the discovery of emails that could be "pertinent" to the investigation of Clinton's use of a private email server.
The NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll showed Clinton with a 6-point lead over Trump in the days prior to the Comey news. When looking at the data for Saturday and Sunday only, her lead remained the same 47 percent to Trump's 41 percent. The poll was conducted online from October 24 through October 30. Questions about Comey's announcement were included on October 29 and October 30.
...........
wishstar
(5,271 posts)7. Reaction of my non-political friends- "What the hell, a warrant to look at more emails-that's nuts!"
I was pleasantly surprised by the reaction from some friends this morning who weren't aware of the Comey flap until this morning. (Older moderate white guys in NC appalled by Trump) Their reaction was incredulity over the outrageousness and absurdity of FBI head pulling such ridiculous overblown nonsense of fishing for elusive emails when there are so many serious concerns involving Trump
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)8. For perspective, ... this is the best they have! It is all they have!!
Imagine their desperation, reading what, 100,000 emails hoping to find a scandal . Pitiful and pathetic.