2016 Postmortem

adigal

(7,581 posts) Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:15 AM Oct 2016

My super street-smart husband has said for weeks that Trump is being paid off

somehow by the Russians. He doesn't really follow politics like I do, he just grabs bits and pieces, but he is remarkably prescient about people. He also said that he bet Trump paid the Clinton accusers to be at the debate before it even came out.

So I'm betting on his being right!

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My super street-smart husband has said for weeks that Trump is being paid off (Original Post) adigal Oct 2016 OP

I think the Russian oligarchs have been bankrolling lapfog_1 Oct 2016 #1

Not about forgiving Trump's debt vlyons Oct 2016 #2

WHY would you wish this to be so? Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #3

Looking at reality is NOT wishing it to be so...how did you get that? adigal Oct 2016 #8

if you were not hoping for this, I retract my statement Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #12

Not hoping, of course not! But it sounds like it is realistic. adigal Oct 2016 #13

Yes we are HORRIFIED that it is happening. There has been intel that Russians hacked the DNC, anamandujano Oct 2016 #14

Some days I'm beginning to think Trump is a Russian operative. One part that alerts RKP5637 Oct 2016 #4

My guess is that he does business w russian mafia (probably U.S. mafia too) bushisanidiot Oct 2016 #7

Very good possibility! Many would say here are my tax forms. He's definitely hiding something IMO. RKP5637 Oct 2016 #10

Well, it would be something he appears to do since he paid for a 'crowd' when he announced he'd BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #5

There is a lot more to Trump and the Russians. UCmeNdc Oct 2016 #6

Have always thought there was a link of some kind... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #9

Especially as I've read/heard many major US banks stopped bankrolling him as he was too much of RKP5637 Oct 2016 #11

People tend to think that when you default on all of your loans and deals, Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #15

lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)

1. I think the Russian oligarchs have been bankrolling

Reply to adigal (Original post)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:18 AM

Oct 2016

Trump for years... more than a decade.

That's why he can't possibly release his tax returns.

They will forgive the debt if he can make good on letting the old USSR come back into existence (even if under a different name).

vlyons

(10,252 posts)

2. Not about forgiving Trump's debt

Reply to lapfog_1 (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:22 AM

Oct 2016

More about laundering Russian money from illegal heroin, arms sales, blood diamonds, prostitution, extortion, human trafficking. However the Russian mob makes money. Invest it in a Trump hotel.

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)

3. WHY would you wish this to be so?

Reply to adigal (Original post)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:22 AM

Oct 2016

A foreign power meddling DIRECTLY in US elections is horrifying, let alone the 2nd biggest nuclear power in the world. I want relations with Russia ratcheted down, not dialed up to "bombs away!!" level.

adigal

(7,581 posts)

8. Looking at reality is NOT wishing it to be so...how did you get that?

Reply to Grey Lemercier (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:45 AM

Oct 2016

I'm saying that my husband called this a while back - and I believe it's true. As does Harry Reid and a whole lot of other people in Congress who asked Comey to investigate this and were ignored.

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)

12. if you were not hoping for this, I retract my statement

Reply to adigal (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:07 PM

Oct 2016

adigal

(7,581 posts)

13. Not hoping, of course not! But it sounds like it is realistic.

Reply to Grey Lemercier (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:47 PM

Oct 2016

I apologize for being unclear. I have been VERY upset that the media is running with the Wikileaks, which were stolen from Russia. It seems pretty unusual, all of this, happening at the same time.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)

14. Yes we are HORRIFIED that it is happening. There has been intel that Russians hacked the DNC,

Reply to Grey Lemercier (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:56 PM

Oct 2016

there is Wikileaks releasing ONLY information on the democrats, tRump asked Russia to hack Hillary in one of his rallies, it goes on.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

4. Some days I'm beginning to think Trump is a Russian operative. One part that alerts

Reply to adigal (Original post)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:30 AM

Oct 2016

me is his refusal to present his tax returns. As I understand it, they all could be released other than those under audit. Even those, I believe, can be released even if under audit. The entire episode, his election shenanigans, is highly suspicious, also, what goods might be held against TPTB that is causing the FBI to act in such a manner. It all also makes me wonder with intrusions into US databases what information was gathered, and can it be being used against some in TPTB.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)

7. My guess is that he does business w russian mafia (probably U.S. mafia too)

Reply to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:42 AM

Oct 2016

he seriously acts like a mob boss but he's too stupid to actually be "in charge" of anything significant because he can't keep his big mouth shut. he is a puppet who thinks he's in charge.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

10. Very good possibility! Many would say here are my tax forms. He's definitely hiding something IMO.

Reply to bushisanidiot (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 11:08 AM

Oct 2016

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)

5. Well, it would be something he appears to do since he paid for a 'crowd' when he announced he'd

Reply to adigal (Original post)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:37 AM

Oct 2016

run for the presidency. Your husband could be right!

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)

6. There is a lot more to Trump and the Russians.

Reply to adigal (Original post)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:41 AM

Oct 2016

Look at all of the people in Trump's organization that has Russian connections.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)

9. Have always thought there was a link of some kind...

Reply to adigal (Original post)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:48 AM

Oct 2016

most likely financial. I'm pretty sure he's in hock to Russian interests, bigly.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

11. Especially as I've read/heard many major US banks stopped bankrolling him as he was too much of

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 11:12 AM

Oct 2016

a financial risk.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)

15. People tend to think that when you default on all of your loans and deals,

Reply to RKP5637 (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 31, 2016, 03:42 PM

Oct 2016

and kind of automatically go into litigation mode for every contract. Any lawsuit between Trump and a sub-contractor is going to involve whomever fronted the funding. So loaning Trump money is a near guarantee of some kind of court action. Bad for business.

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