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helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 08:56 PM Nov 2016

Tweety acting like it is over tonight. I want it to be over

but will be nervous until we get an idea about Florida. I remember the night of the 2004 election I was so confident. Then I was absolutely floored after Kerry lost. I could not watch tv for months. I just could not believe there were so many stupid people. Love the trajectory of this race towards the end. However, I will not be able to breathe a sigh of relief until we get some results tomorrow night.

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Tweety acting like it is over tonight. I want it to be over (Original Post) helpisontheway Nov 2016 OP
Good vibes from Tweety. Lets hope they pan out. nt aaaaaa5a Nov 2016 #1
i remember 2004 too. i went to bed DesertFlower Nov 2016 #2
Kerry actually did win. pat_k Nov 2016 #4
Kerry actually won pat_k Nov 2016 #3
I remember seeing the votes in Ohio flip from Kerry to Bush. sinkingfeeling Nov 2016 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #6

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
2. i remember 2004 too. i went to bed
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 09:19 PM
Nov 2016

thinking kerry had won. i'm still shocked that he lost especially after bush did so badly in the debates. this is a strange country we live in.

this election has showed me just how racist our country really is.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. Kerry actually won
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 09:34 PM
Nov 2016

Ohio was a mess/stolen. Just as Florida was stolen 2000.

When congress counted/judged the legitimacy of electors on Jan 6, 2005 Ohio's electoral votes should never have been certified. Had Congress done its job, Kerry, having won majority of certified electoral votes, would have been inaugurated. (And in 2000 they should have tossed out Florida because the count was stopped and the electoral votes were cast pursuant to an incomplete, and therefore unlawful, election.)

Two elections stolen in plain sight.

We need a big win, not just to trounce Trump into oblivion, but to make sure we overcome the voter suppression tactics that seem to "crop up" in certain key states (and mysteriously only affect areas that favor Democrats).

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