2016 Postmortem

vkkv

(3,384 posts) Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:21 PM Nov 2016

GOP strategist: Clinton will win -- but Congress won't work with her

"I believe she's going to win in an electoral landslide and be the most unpopular president in electoral history, which is quite the paradox," Weaver told David Axelrod on "The Axe Files" podcast, produced by the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN.

"Unfortunately, instead of seeing this as an opportunity for Republicans to do a little self-introspection, a chance to look beyond ourselves, and to rise to the moment -- which would help us grow nationally," said Weaver, "the instinct will be to throw landmines, not to govern and to cause problems above and beyond being just the normal loyal opposition ideologically."

The Republican party is going through "an existential crisis," Weaver argued, and "the damage done demographically and to our long-term chances" by the 2016 campaign will not be solved until Republicans offer a broader, more inclusive vision.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/07/politics/john-weaver-axe-files/index.html

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GOP strategist: Clinton will win -- but Congress won't work with her (Original Post) vkkv Nov 2016 OP

Listen to Evan McMullin. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #1

If the Republicans did that, they would be a real contender. AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #7

Problem with that is... 0rganism Nov 2016 #13

Hilary is tough greymattermom Nov 2016 #2

I am hoping she will be like Lynden Johnson marlakay Nov 2016 #15

We'll get enough done in the senate, a USSC that leans dem is good for now... she just has to build uponit7771 Nov 2016 #3

As you said. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #5

i think her popularity will improve as people see republicans stonewalling. unblock Nov 2016 #4

the damage done demographically and to our long-term chances" by the 2016 campaign will not be Glamrock Nov 2016 #8

the GOP circular firing squad will begin after the election radius777 Nov 2016 #14

Dec 1969 #

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)

1. Listen to Evan McMullin.

Reply to vkkv (Original post)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:23 PM

Nov 2016

Dump the racists and the Born again Christian kooks.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)

7. If the Republicans did that, they would be a real contender.

Reply to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:27 PM

Nov 2016

0rganism

(23,957 posts)

13. Problem with that is...

Reply to AgadorSparticus (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:48 PM

Nov 2016

They'd be dropping 30-40% of their base
They might be a real contender but theyd be a much smaller contender

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)

2. Hilary is tough

Reply to vkkv (Original post)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:23 PM

Nov 2016

and will figure out a way to make them. Moms don't give folks desert if they don't finish their chores. Moms can figure out what to do.

marlakay

(11,476 posts)

15. I am hoping she will be like Lynden Johnson

Reply to greymattermom (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:00 PM

Nov 2016

He got stuff done and was very tough.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)

3. We'll get enough done in the senate, a USSC that leans dem is good for now... she just has to build

Reply to vkkv (Original post)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:23 PM

Nov 2016

... on what Obama has done and get Sanders platform ... she'll win in 2020.

Then it's 2024 and everyone would've forgot about 2008 and we'll start this shit all over again

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)

5. As you said.

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:25 PM

Nov 2016

Strong turnout will give us more than 50 seats.

unblock

(52,253 posts)

4. i think her popularity will improve as people see republicans stonewalling.

Reply to vkkv (Original post)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:24 PM

Nov 2016

especially given that she'll be given zero honeymoon, they'll make it obvious.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)

8. the damage done demographically and to our long-term chances" by the 2016 campaign will not be

Reply to vkkv (Original post)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:27 PM

Nov 2016

solved until Republicans offer a broader, more inclusive vision.

And, they can't. The base won't allow it. Period. The gerrymandering and extensive propaganda network have backfired. They built this thing, they're going to be stuck with it for a long time.

radius777

(3,635 posts)

14. the GOP circular firing squad will begin after the election

Reply to vkkv (Original post)

Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:55 PM

Nov 2016

they are a party in meltdown, and imo the Reaganite establishment Repubs will work with Hillary to get many things done, such as immigration reform, terrorism/ISIS, SCOTUS, and other policies that help them get rid of the far right/trump/teaparty wing of the party. They're not stupid, they see the electoral math, and know they are done as a national party if they don't make major changes to move their party to the center the way the Dems did in '92.

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