2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow exactly do the Republicans think we can rig this election?
I was talking with a relative this morning about the charges the Orange Fuhrer keeps leveling at the Democratic Party. The question nobody seems to ask these people is just HOW are we supposed to be pulling off this massive election rigging? The manpower and capitol required to organize the theft of "hundreds of thousands to millions" of votes would be mind boggling.
In this example let's assume Trump's mythical person who votes 10 times can actually pull it off. They can't be doing it by mail because anything after the first ballot is going to be thrown away. So the voting is going to have to be happening in person. Ok, so figure they'll have to go to multiple districts/polling spots where nobody has seen their face. Each person will be tasked with knowing each of the people they are trying to vote for in detail; how to sign their name, where they live, etc.
Next up let's assume we are shipping people in from other countries(another of the Orange Fuhrers' personal reality facts) to commit voter fraud. Before the voter fraud scheme could even begin there would need to be some serious ESL reading and writing training for everybody brought in for this scheme, right?
Ok, so now we have hundreds of thousands to millions of trained foreign operatives ready to cast 10 votes each across the nation. So with all of that far fetched nonsense somehow accounted for we reach the most critical, and almost statistically improbable, part of the plan. The hundreds of thousands to millions of votes intended to be stolen require the actual legal voter to not show up for a vote or to have sent in a mail in vote. It would only take a single legal voter with a stolen vote to appear for the entire Boris and Natashaesque plan to fail.
So, in short to steal the election there would have to be massive influx of new citizens(that nobody notices). A heavily organized transportation scheme(that nobody notices). An infrastructure of handlers, organizers, etc. to be paid for with money nobody notices is missing. Other things like ten different outfits and time to change into them all. To top it all off there would have to be one world class 100% accurate crystal ball to know which of the legal "living" voters weren't going to cast a vote of any kind in 2016. Next we'd have to.............. you know what...... forget it. The entire scenario I'm outlining here is beyond ridiculous. To accomplish what the Orange Fuhrer has been accusing the DNC of since March is improbable to the point of impossibility. The Republicans seem to like these crazy conspiracies but never seem to know how they are supposed to be accomplished. Anything at all seems to be ok with them and their voters. Each one of them have their very own little personal realities that they insist are real just because they say so.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)The GOP is loaded with them.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)You are trying to speak logically with people who live in a fantasy world.
Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)Except they would change one letter
underpants
(182,829 posts)Fake ID
Know the person's address
The actual voting
That's three crimes right there.
Hoping that no one at the poll knows the person you are voting for....or that they haven't voted already is a leap of its own.
Creating fake voters encompasses even more crimes AND to be done on any meaningful scale is simply impossible.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)RedCloud
(9,230 posts)They are supposed to be there for life.
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)elections can be rigged, because that is what they have done for years.
They do big-time rigging - not the piddling people voting for dead people stuff.
ALL the states that have Republican governors have done everything in their power to limit voting by eliminating as many early voting places as they can.
Highway work magically appears close to targeted vote areas. This is usually done months ahead of time so it does not appear obvious. This has happened right now in my polling place.
It took an act of god for me to get my drivers license in Florida - and thus the right to vote. I had to get my birth certificate, marriage certificate, and divorce certificate. This all happened 50 years ago in another state. I had the knowledge and money to get all this together - not everyone does - especially if they or their parents are immigrants.
The Republicans know an election can be rigged - because they have lots of experience in doing so.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)This is a purely visceral pitch aimed at protecting their fragile egos. Rather than admitting they have nothing to offer America they will create an elaborate conspiracy theory to explain away their failures.
This will also give them the justification to restrict minority voting and a thousand other unthinkable undemocratic acts.
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)"they" means the other. He is talking to his base of angry white male voters. By rigged he means minorities are voting.