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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 04:24 PM Nov 2016

For those intererested: Latest data from Votecastr...

Florida
•74.9 percent of expected total voters
•Clinton: 49 percent
•Trump: 45 percent

Colorado:


•72.2 percent of expected total voters
•Clinton: 47 percent
•Trump: 42 percent

Iowa:
•55.9 percent of expected total voters
•Clinton: 45 percent
•Trump: 46 percent

Wisconsin:
•47.9 percent of expected total voters
•Clinton: 49 percent
•Trump: 43 percent

Nevada:
•58.7 percent of expected total voters
•Clinton: 47 percent
•Trump: 44 percent

Ohio:
•59.8 percent of expected total voters
•Clinton: 46 percent
•Trump: 45 percent

Pennsylvania
•45.9 percent of expected total voters
•Hillary: 48 percent
•Trump: 44 percent

What it means: More than half of expected voters have already cast their ballots for president, and Hillary Clinton is on track to win key swing states barring a huge surge of Trump voters late in the day, according to VoteCastr’s model.

https://news.vice.com/story/live-election-day-turnout-results-with-votecastry?cl=fp

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For those intererested: Latest data from Votecastr... (Original Post) book_worm Nov 2016 OP
Unreliable guesswork and not worth the bother.. beachbumbob Nov 2016 #1
Actually Ken Strasma was chief of microtargeting for Obama in 2008 grantcart Nov 2016 #2
Good to see you grantcart! joshcryer Nov 2016 #6
Its not really very experimental grantcart Nov 2016 #8
Campaign methodology, huh? Thanks for enlightenment. Hortensis Nov 2016 #7
Here is the history grantcart Nov 2016 #9
Thanks! Wonder if there's an "older rural newshounds" Hortensis Nov 2016 #11
The place you see it most often is on your internet ads. grantcart Nov 2016 #12
Oh, yes! We definitely notice it there. I'm still Hortensis Nov 2016 #13
Early information like this is not reliable stamp the rooster Nov 2016 #3
I was just thinking of 2004! Habibi Nov 2016 #4
You are confusing exit polling with microtargeting grantcart Nov 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author stamp the rooster Nov 2016 #5

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
2. Actually Ken Strasma was chief of microtargeting for Obama in 2008
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 04:34 PM
Nov 2016

and he was pretty spot on.

We will see but the methodology is exactly what the campaigns are spending millions of dollars on.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
6. Good to see you grantcart!
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 04:50 PM
Nov 2016

But yeah this is kind of a make or break for this company, either they are getting a good idea, and good metrics, or they will be laughed at and relegated to obscurity. I still think their approach is interesting and hope among hopes that they are right, because wow, a blowout if they are right.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
8. Its not really very experimental
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 04:55 PM
Nov 2016

Campaigns have been paying tens of millions of dollars for this type of information for the last 2 cycles. In some ways Romney's micro targeting was even better than Obamas.

They are showing very tight in PA, but you would expect that with no EV and the urban areas getting a lot of post work voting.

I think what it shows is that the GOTV, which uses the same data, is worth 3-5 points against a campaign that doesn't use it all. the Clinton campaign knows exactly what Democrats and likely independents have voted as per an hour ago and are phoning them right now. The Trump campaign has Rudy on the TV. I know where I would put my money.

Thanks for the welcome back

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Campaign methodology, huh? Thanks for enlightenment.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 04:52 PM
Nov 2016

Not being knowledgeable about data analysis, I'm forced for look at other signs. Trump's very subdued affect at the polls suggests his own campaign data forced his team to burst the bubble they'd been keeping him in. At least that's my interpretation of that input.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Thanks! Wonder if there's an "older rural newshounds"
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 05:06 PM
Nov 2016

category, or whether we'd be folded into the suburban category. We'd fit tidily into a "retired without pensions" group.

We're seeing results of microtargeting in our email, of course. My husband, who is registered Republican to have his say in the primary, actually gets very little right-wing messaging. A few calls, etc., from apparently data-challenged groups only.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. The place you see it most often is on your internet ads.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 05:14 PM
Nov 2016

I will do a search for a product for Golden Retrievers and for months will see ads for GR products and ads with pictures of GR in them. Its kind of spooky.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Oh, yes! We definitely notice it there. I'm still
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 05:19 PM
Nov 2016

being teased by come-ons for a $350 yellow 7.5-quart Cuisinart Dutch oven that just isn't happening. Even for Christmas.

Any idea what data categories might be in the profiles compiled by the candidates, beyond the obvious/expected? Would Hillary discover I like to cook if she checked mine?

3. Early information like this is not reliable
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 04:37 PM
Nov 2016

I started drinking beer and listening to Peace Train at 5pm on Election Day in 2004. Only to vomit later.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
10. You are confusing exit polling with microtargeting
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 05:00 PM
Nov 2016

Microtargeting only really began nationally in the 2008 campaign.

This has nothing to do with exit polls and the information that was released in 2004.

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